EV Digest 2653
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: ampabout/beyond a 14-50
by Rich Rudman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
by Lock Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: Too little, too late: EVocide
by Lock Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Re: Wicked Watts, NEDRA season opener
by Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) batteries
by "veena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) EV norms
by "veena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) emi affetcs brains
by "veena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: Propping up capacity (was: Future of LiIon)
by M Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
by Roderick Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: emi affetcs brains
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement. Don't forget the
differential.
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) RE: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
by "Andre Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Kewet Kwestions
by "The Levine Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: Electric Supra?
by David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: EVLN(Movie: Cody Banks's Silver Volt super-powerful electric car)
by "Mark Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: Twelve 8v batterys in a leopard
by Electro Automotive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: Wicked Watts, NEDRA season opener
by "Richard Furniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: emi affetcs brains
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) EV's off market - anyone makeing them still
by Mike Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
by "damon henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Joe Smalley wrote:
> I love it when you can set the fire hose to the "Sip" setting. Your breaker
> likes it too.
>
> Thanks for the report.
>
> Joe Smalley
> Rural Kitsap County WA
> Fiesta 48 volts
> NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> .
Ok folks you all have to watch out for Joe this week, I will b out of town, and
he has 2 PFC50s in hand.... He has the ability to charge John Lussmyer's
Sparrow at over 120 amps.
He was egging me onto making a PFC50 hot weather spec punch out 100 amps of 96
volts. The new heatsink doesn't get over 90 Deg F with 45 amps of line
current.. The fans never come off idle by 30 Deg f. Ok... it looks like we have
the cooling issues nailed back down. Of course I have to do more abuse testing
when I get back. Any body wanna go for line amps, and 100 amps peak
output??? I wonder how much they will pay for it????
Joe likes to sip at the fire hose, I like the 6 inch line at full Bore.
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Hello Roy, and List
A few weeks ago I went purchased an electric scooter for $700 Canadian
Pesos, including a motor upgrade. The scoot doesn't self-balance, or
go backwards, but otherwise it seems to have some things on common with
the Segway... two wheels, similar range and speeds. It's a little
lighter than the Segway. It has great brakes. Yet the Segway looks to
be about ten times the cost? Does the Segway have a bell?
Lock
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TorontoEVA/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QCYCTender/
--- Roy LeMeur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> Hello All
>
> Thanks to an early adopter here in Seattle who really loves his
> machine and
> wants to show it to everyone, I had the opportunity to spend some
> time
> aboard and get an idea of what it was like.
>
> Phillip Torrone brought his Segway HT to our SEVA meeting Tuesday
> night and
> it was a great hit, this guy makes a great presentation!
>
> See Phillip�s website: http://www.bookofseg.com
>
> There wasn�t enough time at the meeting to give all the folks a
> chance to
> try it though Steve Lough did get aboard for a few minutes.
>
> Phillip was interested in info to fend off the �aren�t you just
> moving the
> pollution around?� people.
>
> I provided him the links to Chip Gribben�s great paper:
>
> Debunking the Myths of EVs and Smokestacks...
>
> PDF version:
> http://www.evadc.org/pwrplnt.pdf
>
> HTML version:
> http://www.princeton.edu/~bcjones/transportation/ev/myths.html
>
> Phillip offered me a chance to try the Segway HT on Saturday at Gas
> Works
> Park here in Seattle. My friend Mark with Electric Scooter Magazine
> was
> hangin� around and I took him along.
>
> It was a beautiful day in Seattle, (sunny, no rain!).
> We ended up spending about two hours in the main parking lot at the
> park
> trying out the HT and answering a never-ending flow of people who
> approached
> us showing much interest in the machine. (and taking pictures for
> Electric
> Scooter Magazine, http://www.electricscootermag.com :^) Almost every
> car
> that came through stopped and rubbernecked for a few minutes. This
> thing
> really draws a crowd!
>
> Two words, �magic carpet�, this seems to be most folks take on it.
> After about 1 minute aboard, I was balancing with no problem, super
> easy!
> Taking Phillip�s advice to just look straight ahead and not look down
> made
> it real simple.
> Within a couple of minutes, I could do hard accelerations, braking,
> and
> turning. (Machine was set in the �demo� mode)
> It does actually feel like it is anticipating your next move.
> An absolutely incredible piece of technology!
>
> Incredible regen! The regen is the brakes. (I am not sure how any
> excess
> energy may be handled) Phillip takes it up and over Queen Anne hill
> here
> every day (an 18% grade) and recovers most of his energy expended
> going up
> while descending the other side.
>
> Super quality and excellent execution of design is evident everywhere
> you
> look.
>
> Like everyone else who tries it�.. Now I want one!
>
> By the end of March, many more Segways will be delivered around the
> country.
>
> I saw 5 on Ebay last night. These sellers are, of course, looking for
> folks
> to pay a premium to be the first on their block to have one.
>
> Phillip and his wife have sold one of their cars and are saving about
>
> $600.00 a month in car expenses.
>
> Lots of good info and videos at:
> http://www.bookofseg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Roy LeMeur Seattle WA
>
> My Electric Vehicle Pages:
> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evpage.html
>
> Informative Electric Vehicle Links:
> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evlinks.html
>
>
>
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Hiya Rick, and List
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> Let me know what I can do Bruce. I'm standying by for NEWS!! ;-))
> Politically incorrect as usual, but with warm regards to All,
> Rick
Most of the List are into larger vehicles of course. I'm interested
in electrics for larger *vessels*, but I have a little eScoot now for
shoreside commutes.
The Globe and Mail had an article in the weekend edition about the
first Segway owner in NYC:
<http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030315.usegw0315/BNStory/International/?query=segway>
This fellow reports being "mobbed" with interested folks.
Perhaps I know a little bit what he is feeling. I have been driving
my little escoot around toronto streets now for a few weeks through
freezing temps and slush and snow. Other than the bike couriers there
are not a lot of other folks out on two wheels around here, these days,
so I guess I am pretty "visible"...
I'm getting comments like "Hey, we saw you..." and "Was that you?"
and so on. Giving test rides to folks and answering a lot of questions
EVery day.
My point is only that EV folk need those "Powered by (insert Country
here) Electrons" bumperstickers! Anything to make your EV's more
visible!
Folks can read all the crap they want from the media, but when they
encounter the technology "live", it's another matter I think. I am
running about 98% very, very positive responses.
Cheers
Lock
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TorontoEVA/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QCYCTender/
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Richard-
Are you still planning on running 192V in your RX-7? Or have you made improvements????
Also, does anyone know a convenient way to fly in, check out the drags
Friday/Saturday and fly out Sunday? Mostly I am trying to iron out
airport transportation without renting a car. Also, is there a "Burning
Man" style tent city, or it it more low key?
Seth
Richard Furniss wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The NEDRA season opener will be held on Saturday April 26, 2003 at the
> Las Vegas Motor speedway, http://www.lvms.com/ Racing begins at noon and
> ends about 4:00 pm on Saturday, there will be a "test and tune" on Friday
> night from 5:30 pm to 9:30 pm for the people that need a few test runs.
>
> This years list of participants is growing,
>
> Brigham Young University (BYU) will be there with a EV-1, factory motor
> with their custom built controller running on super capacitors and a pit
> crew of 15 engineering students, make your travel plans now this is a must
> see EVent.
>
> Dennis KILL A WATT Berube, "Current Eliminator V" will be running a new
> battery pack, could there be a new record for The WORLD'S QUICKEST Electric
> Vehicle? we will see.
> http://currenteliminator.net/
>
> Bill Dube', KillaCycle, World's Quickest Electric Motorcycle, we haven't
> heard much from him this winter so he has had a lot of time to work on the
> bike, he might have some surprises for us this year.
> http://www.killacycle.com/
>
> Roderick Wilde, EVParts.com, he is trying to put something together for
> this race, he doesn't want to come empty handed this year. Roderick, you
> know that they rent NEV on the strip, we could have a trailer waiting with
> some optima's?....no. no. no. bad idea ;-)
> www.evparts.com
>
> Shawn Lawless at HDT from Ohio will be coming, but he doesn't think his
> electric dragster "Orange Juice" will be ready in time for this years EVent.
> http://www.paradefloats.com/pages/new.html
>
> William Kuehl, Pontiac Fiero 1985 192 volts
> http://www.lveva.org/
>
> Richard Furniss, EX-7, 192v
> http://www.lveva.org/
>
> These are people that are expected to come but haven't confirmed yet.
>
> Bruce Meland, Electrifying Times, Kawashocki II Motorcycle
> http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/
>
> Henry Deaton, "DV8R"
>
> Otmar, "CA POP E "
>
> Rich Brown, "Dualin' 7"
>
> Chip Gribben, Power of DC,
>
> The after race dinner will be at "Rookie's bar & grill" which is located in
> the Speedway Casino (I-15 and exit 46) at 6 pm. Saturday night. Phone
> 702-399-3297.
>
> Accommodations
>
> Motel's close to the track
>
> Speedway Casino $69.00, 702-399-3297
> Favorite, lots of parking, big restaurant, on I-15 exit 46 and the track
> is exit 54.
>
> Best inn & suites $ 99.00, 702-632-0229
> New building with lots of trailer parking
>
> Super 8 Motel $49.99, 702-644-5666
> older building and very little room for parking, has Blueberry Hill
> restaurant in parking lot.
>
> More Lodging:
> http://leisure.travelocity.com/Promotions/0,,TRAVELOCITY|657,00.html
>
> Or you can go to http://www.lasvegas.com/ to find rooms on the strip.
>
> Map of the Las Vegas Motor Speedway area
> http://66.209.67.5/Schedules/2002/Events/nascar_traffic.gif
>
> This link is the visitors guide for the race track.
> http://www.lvms.com/visitor_guide/
>
> The Las Vegas Motor Speedway http://www.lvms.com/
>
> NEDRA http://www.nedra.com/
>
> I will be posting new information as I get it,
>
> www.lasvegasev.com
> Richard Furniss
> Las Vegas, NV
> 1986 Mazda EX-7 192v
> 1981 Lectra Centauri 108v
> 3 Wheel Trail Master 12v
> Board Member, www.lveva.org
> Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association
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hi all
i have a few queries related to batteries.
1. i have a flooded lead acid battery pack. i read in a book about the
partial state of charge operation of the batteries. can i operate my battery
on PSOC even though there was no such thought when the battery was designed
and made? at the end of the day, i will however full cahrge and also
equalise the pack.
2. the container is made of hard rubber and i hardly have any space in my
car for 4 batteries that need to be put in series. would it be ok if i had
very little gap between the batteries. ofcourse, the car will only be tested
once in a while.
veena
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hi all
could someone tell me from where i can find norms related to EVs?
veena
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hi all
voltages beyond a certain value are suppose to be responsible for causing
some disorders related to the brains as the electromagnetic induction
affects the brains.
does anyone have more info on this?
does anyone know the name of this kind of pollution?
veena
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> Bill Dube writes:
> I am NOT (NOT) N_O_T proposing the elimination of the BMS. A BMS
> will greatly extend the life of the pack.
Oh. Then I guess Bill, Lee and I are in violent agreement here ;)
"Treat you batteries well."
Battery Management Systems are a good way to do that, especially if used from
the very beginning.
--
Mike Bianchi
Foveal Systems
190 Loantaka Way
Madison NJ 07940-1910
+1 973 822-2085 Voice and Fax
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Create videos of auditorium and classroom presentations without a crew?
Yes!
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Roy, since it is called a HT (human transport) and supposedly is for
getting a person from one place to another, then does it have any
advantages over and above a traditional board scooter that has more
speed, more range, better brakes, and which two people can take up
the same width on a sidewalk as one Segway. Don't give me that self
balancing act. I have many friends who have that device installed in
their middle ear and it works just fine. Yes, many of my friends do
walk upright with no problem whatsoever. I'm just not buying it in
either respect. You know me personally and how much I detest BS.
Roderick
Hello All
Thanks to an early adopter here in Seattle who really loves his
machine and wants to show it to everyone, I had the opportunity to
spend some time aboard and get an idea of what it was like.
Phillip Torrone brought his Segway HT to our SEVA meeting Tuesday
night and it was a great hit, this guy makes a great presentation!
See Phillip�s website: http://www.bookofseg.com
There wasn�t enough time at the meeting to give all the folks a
chance to try it though Steve Lough did get aboard for a few minutes.
Phillip was interested in info to fend off the �aren�t you just
moving the pollution around?� people.
I provided him the links to Chip Gribben�s great paper:
Debunking the Myths of EVs and Smokestacks...
PDF version:
http://www.evadc.org/pwrplnt.pdf
HTML version:
http://www.princeton.edu/~bcjones/transportation/ev/myths.html
Phillip offered me a chance to try the Segway HT on Saturday at Gas
Works Park here in Seattle. My friend Mark with Electric Scooter
Magazine was hangin� around and I took him along.
It was a beautiful day in Seattle, (sunny, no rain!).
We ended up spending about two hours in the main parking lot at the
park trying out the HT and answering a never-ending flow of people
who approached us showing much interest in the machine. (and taking
pictures for Electric Scooter Magazine,
http://www.electricscootermag.com :^) Almost every car that came
through stopped and rubbernecked for a few minutes. This thing
really draws a crowd!
Two words, �magic carpet�, this seems to be most folks take on it.
After about 1 minute aboard, I was balancing with no problem, super easy!
Taking Phillip�s advice to just look straight ahead and not look
down made it real simple.
Within a couple of minutes, I could do hard accelerations, braking,
and turning. (Machine was set in the �demo� mode)
It does actually feel like it is anticipating your next move.
An absolutely incredible piece of technology!
Incredible regen! The regen is the brakes. (I am not sure how any
excess energy may be handled) Phillip takes it up and over Queen
Anne hill here every day (an 18% grade) and recovers most of his
energy expended going up while descending the other side.
Super quality and excellent execution of design is evident
everywhere you look.
Like everyone else who tries it�.. Now I want one!
By the end of March, many more Segways will be delivered around the country.
I saw 5 on Ebay last night. These sellers are, of course, looking
for folks to pay a premium to be the first on their block to have
one.
Phillip and his wife have sold one of their cars and are saving
about $600.00 a month in car expenses.
Lots of good info and videos at:
http://www.bookofseg.com
Roy LeMeur Seattle WA
My Electric Vehicle Pages:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evpage.html
Informative Electric Vehicle Links:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evlinks.html
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Hello to All,
veena wrote:
> hi all
>
> voltages beyond a certain value are suppose to be responsible for causing
> some disorders related to the brains as the electromagnetic induction
> affects the brains.
>
Is that what's wrong with me? Every since I ran at 408V my bwain hasm'tt werked kwyte
wite.....
See Ya...John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland
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I have a combination. I just unscrewed the front forks, cleaned the pistons
and the springs and lubed with grease. The springs are small but stiff.
It's only 29 bucks at Walmart for the tire. It is very wide though.
Lawrence Rhodes.....
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From: "Thomas Shay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
> Are you sure you want narrow tires? Does your cart have springs or
> does it depend on its big soft tires to smooth out the bumps?
>
> Tom Shay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
>
>
> > I have heard that trailer tires and wheels are the same bolt pattern. A
5
> > bolt is a 5 bolt that is. I could change to a narrower tire that way.
I
> > suspect I don't need such a wide tire. Might help top speed a bit and
> > certainly better range. Lawrence Rhodes.....
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Shay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
> >
> >
> > > Finding a tire will be no problem. 18X9.50-8 might be hard to find
> > > but the slightly narrower 18X8.50-8 is a standard golf cart size and
> also
> > > used on garden tractors.
> > >
> > > Tom Shay
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:18 AM
> > > Subject: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Laher cart has an axle. Two bolts. Two tapered roller
bearings.
> > > Some
> > > > spacers. Two races. Two pressure fittings to hold in the bearings
in
> > and
> > > > act as dust caps. 5 bolt 18 inch tires. Very wide. I am not quit
> sure
> > > how
> > > > to adjust the bearings. It seems that tapping the dust cap down
> untill
> > > the
> > > > play stops might be the way. The fork just has two tubular holes to
> put
> > > the
> > > > axle thru. It rolled easily but one of the bearings is trashed and
> > making
> > > a
> > > > thumping noise so I figure it could be better. Anybody point me in
> the
> > > > right direction for assistance? I know where to get the bearings.
> > > > Adjustment is the problem. The wheel is 9 1/4 inch in diameter. 5
bo
> lt
> > > > pattern. 18 X9.50 - 8. Very wide. Two ply rated. Might a narrower
> > > trailer
> > > > tire work. They are Carlisle ribbed & the back are Turfsavers.
> > > Lawrence
> > > > Rhodes.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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This is exactlly what I figured out on my own. I didn't figure out the 99
degree drilling. I guess I'll drill one hole put a pin through so I can
line it up. The seal is a metal dust cap with a close tolerance. It just
means more matainance unless I can find a source for seals that are generic.
Lawrence Rhodes.....----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement. Don't forget
the differential.
> My background is in motorcycles and vintage Bugs. Typically, the axle is
> drilled twice for cotter keys 90 degrees apart. If a castelated
> (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mjvanvoorhis/T520.htm) nut is
> used, there are 12 positions per turn of the nut where a cotter key can be
> inserted to hold the nut in place.
>
> The spacer is critical to making the assembly survive. The outer diameter
> fits the seal that keeps water and dirt out. The inner diameter must fit
> snugly on the axle so it does not wobble during turns. The length of the
> spacer needs to keep the fork from touching anything except the spacer and
> axle. Make one if you can't find one. Make sure it has a smooth finish on
> the outside so it does not tear up the seal.
>
> Joe Smalley
> Rural Kitsap County WA
> Fiesta 48 volts
> NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement. Don't
forget
> the differential.
>
>
> > Cotter keys? Oh man. This baby needs some attention. The axle just
had
> > two nuts. One on each side. I need to drill two holes in the axle and
> get
> > some cotter bolts.(is that what they are called?) Loosing an axle isn't
> > fun. Next step. Checking out the differential. What oil(synthetic I
> > hope)to put in a 60's vintage cart differential. Lawrence
> Rhodes..........
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
> >
> >
> > > Jack the front end up.
> > > Loosen the axle nuts a couple turns each.
> > > Spin the tire by hand.
> > > Tighten nuts a little bit at a time until it spins down slightly
slower
> > than
> > > with the nuts loose. (this indicates the onset of binding)
> > > Back off about 1/12 turn on each axle nut.
> > > If lash is OK, install the cotter keys.
> > > Remove jack.
> > >
> > > Joe Smalley
> > > Rural Kitsap County WA
> > > Fiesta 48 volts
> > > NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:18 AM
> > > Subject: Golfcart front bearing rebuild. Tire replacement.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am not quit sure how
> > > > to adjust the bearings. It seems that tapping the dust cap down
> untill
> > > the
> > > > play stops might be the way. The fork just has two tubular holes to
> put
> > > the
> > > > axle thru. It rolled easily but one of the bearings is trashed and
> > making
> > > a
> > > > thumping noise so I figure it could be better. Anybody point me in
> the
> > > > right direction for assistance? I know where to get the bearings.
> > > > Adjustment is the problem.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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I think the Segway is an interesting engineering problem. Although the
control algorithm has to be very similar to that used to control a rocket
during launch. Even if it were reasonably priced it would have a limited
market. A bicycle with an electric assist would be more practical in almost
all applications, and much easier to get home after the battery dies.
That said, if you bolted a platform to the handle bars of a Segway could a
second Segway be set on the platform? How many could you stack up?
Andre' B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If something cannot be defined, it does not exist.
Isaac Newton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Roderick Wilde
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
> Roy, since it is called a HT (human transport) and supposedly is for
> getting a person from one place to another, then does it have any
> advantages over and above a traditional board scooter that has more
> speed, more range, better brakes, and which two people can take up
> the same width on a sidewalk as one Segway. Don't give me that self
> balancing act. I have many friends who have that device installed in
> their middle ear and it works just fine. Yes, many of my friends do
> walk upright with no problem whatsoever. I'm just not buying it in
> either respect. You know me personally and how much I detest BS.
>
> Roderick
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Hi EVists -
I acquired a '93 Kewet El-Jet on Friday, replaced 4 batteries and got it on
the road. With Ford taking away my NiMH Ranger, I am back with flooded
batteries again! The Curtis 1205 controller has a 350A peak, but it seems
pretty slow, and I can't tell how fast it really is, since the
speedometer/odometer is on the fritz. I have the owner's manual and several
pdf files from Kewet owner sites, but something closer to a service manual
would be nice (hint, hint). The Zivan charger takes 220V, but is supplied by
a 220-to-110 converter box.
Any idea where I can get an Avcon female receiver and the parts needed to
let it run off the public chargers around town?
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Supra is one of the heaviest cars for that size, 3500 lbs. Go to a
Porsche 944 or 911, early 280Z, Miata, early RX7, and you'll save
1000 lbs.
--- Richard Bebbington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> A friend of mine is selling his 1990 Toyota Supra
> cheap, supposedly because he needs the room for his
> other toy, a vicious snarling Nissan Pulsar.
> Personally I think he's crazy to be selling it, but
> he is, and here's where my evil mind starts plotting....
>
> This car has mint condition bodywork, but has overheating
> problems. It can idle all day in the driveway, but as soon as
> it gets driven, it overheats. The car has suffered from the
> dreaded head-gasket failure, and that has been repaired,
> ( very expensive! :-O ) but still has problems.
>
> I'm starting to wonder about converting it -
> - using something like twin 8 or 9 inch motors,
> 24 odd Optimas and a Zilla.... this way, there would
> still be 300 HP of fun available, just electric fun
> rather than noisy smelly ICE fun!
>
> The car's rear-wheel drive, with automatic box,
> and has acres of room under the hood. So much
> of the conversion would be pretty standard stuff,
> apart from the auto box ( remove the torque converter? )
>
> Is this even a remotely sensible idea? Or is it
> just plain evil? ;-)
>
> If I did do this, it'd make a great commuting car,
> and would probably last a lot longer than an electric
> Mini ( rust-wise )...
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I was in Fort Lauderdale at Robert Aronson's place one day while at the EV
convention in December and rode in the Silver Volt when it cameback from
making the movie. It was a buick modified with an auto tranny and standard
Trojans with about 30 miles standard range for this heavy vehicle, not the
240 miles range claimed.
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From: "Bruce EVangel Parmenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 2:51 AM
Subject: EVLN(Movie: Cody Banks's Silver Volt super-powerful electric car)
> EVLN(Movie: Cody Banks's Silver Volt super-powerful electric car)
> [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational
> purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.]
> --- {EVangel}
>
http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-et-thomas14mar14,0,6605423.sto
ry?coll=cl-home-more-channels
> March 14, 2003 MOVIE REVIEW 'Cody Banks' has access to gadgets
>
> * Displaying plenty of technical finesse, "Agent Cody Banks" may be
> targeted at teens, but even their grandparents might consider it
> fun. 'Cody Banks' 'Cody Banks' (Diyah Pera) By Kevin Thomas, Times
> Staff Writer
>
> Don't mess with Cody Banks, who combines the karate skills of Jackie
> Chan with enough gadgetry and stunts for three James Bond movies. He
> may sound like Superman, but there's a catch: He's a nice, normal,
> middle-class Seattle high school kid who's about 16 but looks
> younger.
>
> Back when he was a mere 13, Cody answered an ad in a magazine
> devoted to spies and wound up at a summer camp run by the CIA as
> part of its agent development plan. The notion that the CIA would be
> recruiting teenagers -- and without their parents' knowledge -- is
> pretty creepy, but then can anything really be called incredible in
> today's world?
>
> In any case, the idea of a teenage 007 is the starting point for
> "Agent Cody Banks," a clever and lively action-adventure with a warm
> sense of humor and smart dialogue that allows for an affectionate
> and fleet-footed satire of the classic elements of the Bond
> franchise. It works remarkably well considering this is not entirely
> new territory, thanks to Robert Rodriguez's "Spy Kids" movies.
>
> In a bravura opening sequence, the filmmakers shrewdly establish
> that Frankie Muniz's Cody may be a normal guy but is far from
> ordinary when he exhibits the derring-do of an old-time cliffhanging
> serial in rescuing an infant from a car running out of control down
> a steep midtown Seattle street. Not surprisingly, Cody is nowhere to
> be found when the frantic mother is eager to thank her child's
> savior.
>
> Presently, Ronica (Angie Harmon), Cody's tough, statuesque
> "handler," has an assignment for him: He's got to woo the pretty
> daughter (Hilary Duff) of a scientist (Martin Donovan), a
> world-renowned nanotechnologist, which means that he is developing
> microscopic robots with the power to destroy the world. Donovan's
> Dr. Connors is backed by ERIS, a shadowy research enterprise with a
> truly amazing laboratory hidden in the Cascade mountains and run by
> the decidedly sinister Brinkman (Ian McShane) and his thuggish
> henchman Molay (Arnold Vosloo), blind in his right eye and scarred
> across his neck. Donovan's Dr. Connors has to be pretty obtuse ever
> to do business with such blatantly bad guys.
>
> There is a hitch in the CIA's plan to get to Connors through his
> daughter: Cody may be otherwise fearless, but when it comes to girls
> he's hopelessly tongue-tied. To save the world, Cody first has to
> overcome his shyness and develop self-confidence with the opposite
> sex.
>
> As for all those gadgets at Cody and Ronica's disposal, they include
> Snow Hawks, which look to be jet-propelled skis, the Solotrek XFV
> (Exoskeletal Flying Vehicle) and the Silver Volt, Cody's
> super-powerful electric car.
> [ http://www.electricauto.com/SV_Movie/images/index.3.jpg ]
>
> Amazingly, these vehicles actually exist. As one would expect of a
> secret agent worth his salt, Cody carries magnetic X-ray sunglasses
> (which enable him to see through girls' clothes right to their
> Victoria's Secrets), wears suction-cup shoes so he can walk on
> ceilings, and has a wristwatch equipped with stun rays.
>
> The film is studded with energetic action sequences in which all
> these items and more are put to use, both in everyday locales, and
> in dramatic, large-scale laboratories and on snowy mountain slopes.
>
> Working with a script by many hands, director Harald Zwart imposes
> an easy, flowing style and a unified vision on the material, which
> strikes a smooth balance between Cody's routine family life and his
> fantastic exploits, presented with just the right degree of
> tongue-in-cheekery. Similarly, Harmon's adamantine Ronica, Keith
> David's swaggering CIA director, and McShane and Vosloo's villains
> are not to be taken too seriously.
>
> Yet Duff's lovely, spontaneous Natalie Connors and especially Muniz
> remain down-to-earth, likable teens. The film ultimately rests on
> the resilient shoulders of Muniz. Well-designed and displaying
> plenty of technical finesse, "Agent Cody Banks" may be targeted at
> teens, but even their grandparents might consider it fun.
>
> 'Agent Cody Banks'
> MPAA Rating: PG, for action violence, mild language and some sexual
> content.
>
> Times guidelines: Action emphasizes spectacle more than violence.
> Language and sexual allusions are mild.
> Frankie Muniz...Cody Banks
> Hilary Duff...Natalie Connors
> Angie Harmon...Ronica Miles
> Keith David...CIA Director
> Ian McShane...Brinkman
> An MGM presentation of a Splendid Pictures/Maverick Films/Dylan
> Sellers production. Director Harald Zwart. Producers David C.
> Glasser, Andreas Klein, Guy Oseary, Dylan Sellers, David Nicksay.
> Executive producers Mark Morgan, Jason Alexander, Jennifer
> Birchfield-Eick, Kerry David, Danny Gold, Michael Jackman, Madonna,
> Bob Yari. Screenplay Ashley Edward Miller & Zack Stentz and Scott
> Alexander & Larry Karaszewski; from a story by Jeffrey Jurgensen.
> Cinematographer Denis Crossan. Editor Jim Miller. Music John Powell.
> Stunt coordinator Scott Ateah. Visual effects supervisor Raymond
> McIntyre Jr. Costumes Suzanne McCabe. Production designer Rusty
> Smith. Art director Kelvin Humenny. Set decorator Lesley Beale.
> In general release.
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My name is Jack Waddell and I'm new to the EV list. I'm getting ready to
decide on which battery to install in my 1980 leopard. This car has 74 mi
total and sat for 20 years. Its all original except batteries.
If this car is all original, you need to do more than put in new
batteries. You need to seriously reinforce the battery containment. I
have seen 30 mph barrier crash test videos of a Leopard. The driver would
not survive. The batteries in the back flew forward and crushed the front
seat.
Batteries CAN be safely contained, but the original Leopard didn't do
it. Building a sturdy cage or basket type rack and sinking it down into
the car floor helps tremendously. If the batteries sit on top of the
floor, as in the Leopard, they need to be securely caged (and held down in
case of rollover), and secured structurally to the car, not just bolted
through sheet metal.
Shari Prange
Electro Automotive POB 1113 Felton CA 95018-1113 Telephone 831-429-1989
http://www.electroauto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electric Car Conversion Kits * Components * Books * Videos * Since 1979
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Hi Seth,
Yep, I'm staying at 192 volts until I do something with my trans pump
motor, the car is working good at 192 so why change it now.
There is always some vacation junkets on non-holiday weekends, I will
check around and let you know. Hotel shuttles run every hour or so to the
airport and I'm sure I can find someone in town to pick you up, no car
rental needed, there is room in the car for more than one if others want to
car pool.
No burning man style tent city that I know of ;-), I though that
everything was low key compared to burning man.
Seth wrote
> Richard-
>
> Are you still planning on running 192V in your RX-7? Or have you made
improvements????
>
>
> Also, does anyone know a convenient way to fly in, check out the drags
> Friday/Saturday and fly out Sunday? Mostly I am trying to iron out
> airport transportation without renting a car. Also, is there a "Burning
> Man" style tent city, or it it more low key?
>
> Seth
>
> Richard Furniss wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The NEDRA season opener will be held on Saturday April 26, 2003 at
the
> > Las Vegas Motor speedway, http://www.lvms.com/ Racing begins at noon and
> > ends about 4:00 pm on Saturday, there will be a "test and tune" on
Friday
> > night from 5:30 pm to 9:30 pm for the people that need a few test runs.
> >
www.lasvegasev.com
Richard Furniss
Las Vegas, NV
1986 Mazda EX-7 192v
1981 Lectra Centauri 108v
3 Wheel Trail Master 12v
Board Member, www.lveva.org
Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association
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John, I know just what you mean. When I was in a hurry to get "Silent
Thunder" ready for Bonneville I got hooked up to over 200 volts and couldn't
get loose for a moment. I was totally mellow for two whole days and got to
finally understand how normal people live.
Roderick
Roderick Wilde, President, EV Parts Inc.
Your Online EV Superstore
www.evparts.com
1-888-EV Parts (387-2787)
Phone: 360-385-7966 Fax: 360-385-7922
PO Box 221, 107 Louisa Street
Port Townsend, WA 98368
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From: "John Wayland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: emi affetcs brains
> Hello to All,
>
> veena wrote:
>
> > hi all
> >
> > voltages beyond a certain value are suppose to be responsible for
causing
> > some disorders related to the brains as the electromagnetic induction
> > affects the brains.
> >
>
> Is that what's wrong with me? Every since I ran at 408V my bwain hasm'tt
werked kwyte
> wite.....
>
> See Ya...John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland
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I've been involved and interested in alternative energy
for a couple of years in Los Angeles, but on a budget.
I'll be moveing to about 8 miles from work soon, and was
pushing my employer to install some EV chargeing stations,
but now I see that Ford & Toyota have pulled their EV's off
the market - anyone else making an mass market EV that an
ordinary person can afford? The EV-1 was about the right
size of what I wanted, but I guess I'm too late for them too.
Traffic in LA is bad enough I can't bicycle the trip anymore,
at 2 miles I could take enough back streets, but 8 miles is
major streets with wacky drivers is out of my safety envelope.
The GEM would not be a safe alternative, in the style of traffic
I'm looking at.
I've got a pickup truck for camping and hauling, and girlfriend
has CRX for long trips, I need to get away from the 12mpg in the
truck. (98 dodge dakota - way too heavy to dream of converting to
EV.)
Mike
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I think most people on this list would have the same attitude. After all we
have been playing with and building these things and are already sold on the
concept. That's why we participate on this list.
I do think the segway has a chance. It has almost all the same practical
benefits of an electric bike or scooter along with some real whiz bang
marketing appeal. As stated below, it draws a crowd and everyone that tries
it wants to have one. These same people might want an electric bike or
scooter if they tried one, but because there is not the same buzz around any
electric scooter or bikes they won't ever get a chance.
Let's face it, the Segway looks a lot more like the future the Jetson's
promised us then an electirc scooter. The only downsides to a Segway that I
see are size and price. These are both personal preferences that people may
be willing to look past.
damon
From: Roderick Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rode a Segway HT Yesterday
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:45:04 -0800
Roy, since it is called a HT (human transport) and supposedly is for
getting a person from one place to another, then does it have any
advantages over and above a traditional board scooter that has more speed,
more range, better brakes, and which two people can take up the same width
on a sidewalk as one Segway. Don't give me that self balancing act. I have
many friends who have that device installed in their middle ear and it
works just fine. Yes, many of my friends do walk upright with no problem
whatsoever. I'm just not buying it in either respect. You know me
personally and how much I detest BS.
Roderick
Hello All
Thanks to an early adopter here in Seattle who really loves his machine
and wants to show it to everyone, I had the opportunity to spend some time
aboard and get an idea of what it was like.
Phillip Torrone brought his Segway HT to our SEVA meeting Tuesday night
and it was a great hit, this guy makes a great presentation!
See Phillip�s website: http://www.bookofseg.com
There wasn�t enough time at the meeting to give all the folks a chance to
try it though Steve Lough did get aboard for a few minutes.
Phillip was interested in info to fend off the �aren�t you just moving the
pollution around?� people.
I provided him the links to Chip Gribben�s great paper:
Debunking the Myths of EVs and Smokestacks...
PDF version:
http://www.evadc.org/pwrplnt.pdf
HTML version:
http://www.princeton.edu/~bcjones/transportation/ev/myths.html
Phillip offered me a chance to try the Segway HT on Saturday at Gas Works
Park here in Seattle. My friend Mark with Electric Scooter Magazine was
hangin� around and I took him along.
It was a beautiful day in Seattle, (sunny, no rain!).
We ended up spending about two hours in the main parking lot at the park
trying out the HT and answering a never-ending flow of people who
approached us showing much interest in the machine. (and taking pictures
for Electric Scooter Magazine, http://www.electricscootermag.com :^)
Almost every car that came through stopped and rubbernecked for a few
minutes. This thing really draws a crowd!
Two words, �magic carpet�, this seems to be most folks take on it.
After about 1 minute aboard, I was balancing with no problem, super easy!
Taking Phillip�s advice to just look straight ahead and not look down made
it real simple.
Within a couple of minutes, I could do hard accelerations, braking, and
turning. (Machine was set in the �demo� mode)
It does actually feel like it is anticipating your next move.
An absolutely incredible piece of technology!
Incredible regen! The regen is the brakes. (I am not sure how any excess
energy may be handled) Phillip takes it up and over Queen Anne hill here
every day (an 18% grade) and recovers most of his energy expended going up
while descending the other side.
Super quality and excellent execution of design is evident everywhere you
look.
Like everyone else who tries it�.. Now I want one!
By the end of March, many more Segways will be delivered around the
country.
I saw 5 on Ebay last night. These sellers are, of course, looking for
folks to pay a premium to be the first on their block to have one.
Phillip and his wife have sold one of their cars and are saving about
$600.00 a month in car expenses.
Lots of good info and videos at:
http://www.bookofseg.com
Roy LeMeur Seattle WA
My Electric Vehicle Pages:
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Informative Electric Vehicle Links:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evlinks.html
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