EV Digest 3895
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Source for 48v Soneil charger
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2) RE: Source for 48v Soneil charger
by "Will Bain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Transport -- NY to CO -- beware of these folks ...
by "Steve Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to
Greg McCrea and Gary Flo? answer to Rich
by Paul Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: Production Company looking for turn of the century (type) electri
c car
by William Brinsmead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to
by Ralph Merwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: Source for 48v Soneil charger
by Bruce Weisenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: Motorcycle Range, speed, Re: Motorcycle transmissions
by "Marc Michon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Motorcycle Range, speed, Re: Motorcycle transmissions
by jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Help! BSUEV suddenly stoped working!
by "David Roden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: Source for 48v Soneil charger
by cristin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Battery Desulfation Generator
by "Don Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to Greg McCrea and
Gary Flo? answer to Rich
by "Joe Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Re:
by "Rmanzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) orbital extreme 8VXCD?
by Jim Coate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: orbital extreme 8VXCD?
by Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: Hello
by "Rmanzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: What is the service life of transmission and differential flu
ids? reply to Pat
by "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: Transport -- NY to CO -- beware of these folks ...
by "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) RE: orbital extreme 8VXCD?
by "Adams, Lynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to Greg McCrea and
Gary Flo? answer to Rich
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: orbital extreme 8VXCD?
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re: What is the service life of transmission and differential fluids?
reply to Pat
by "Patrick Maston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: Thanks :)
by "Rmanzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) RE: Thanks :)
by "Eddie Pettit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) RE: Thanks :)
by Derrick J Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) RE: Thanks :)
by "Eddie Pettit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: Thanks :)
by Stefano Landi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Re: Thanks :)
by Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
30) Re: FW: Thanks :)
by "Tim Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
31) RE: Production Company looking for turn of the century (type) ele
ctric c car
by "Reinhard, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
32) Spain, Calling you! was Re: Thanks :)
by Otmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi all-
>
> Wondering if anyone knows where to get a 48v Soneil charger.
>
> Evparts is out, and says they are backordered at least a month <sigh>
>
>
> -Cristin
A few here, one is the 3A Soneil: http://www.batterystuff.com/battery/48volt.htm
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Check out http://www.evdeals.com/48Vchargers.htm
-- Will Bain
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From: Gravity Girl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Source for 48v Soneil charger
I'm looking for one of the 48v, because I want it on-board on my
scooter (evt-168) and there isn't enough room for 2 or 4 chargers. I
have Rudman Regs to take care of the balancing.
-Cristin
On Nov 3, 2004, at 9:03 AM, damon henry wrote:
> You could just buy 4 of the 12 volt or two of the 24 volt chargers.
> The price and performance is about the same. With 4 12 volt chargers
> your batteries will get better individual care, though you run the
> risk of one charger going bad without realizing it.
>
>> From: Gravity Girl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Source for 48v Soneil charger
>> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:54:33 -0800
>>
>>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> Wondering if anyone knows where to get a 48v Soneil charger.
>>
>> Evparts is out, and says they are backordered at least a month <sigh>
>>
>>
>> -Cristin
>>
>>
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I was just ripped off by "American Auto Relocation Professionals," Long
Island, NY. Beware of those folks.
In shipping an EV TeVan from Syracuse to Denver they have no-showed 4
pick-up agreements over the past 1.5 weeks and left me in a bind to move
my new EV. These people are as low as it gets. They have delayed my
transport for 3 weeks and left me high and dry.
If anyone knows of any "honorable" transporters working the NY to CO
route pls let me know.
Steve
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Rich,
I thought about the two step process you describe, but then I couldn't
figure out where the '0' click is on the timer dial. The little scew
adjust has no stops, rotating continuously in either direction. The
reference point isn't in the documentation that I can find. Your list
reply makes this a little more clear, execept that I would expect the
dial to rotate almost a complete turn for 15 clicks so both end of the
screwdriver slot will pass the 3:00 position during rotation, one for
'0' and one for '8'. This still leaves the question of which end of the
screwdriver slot is the pointer or reference. Mine isn't marked in any way.
I actually need to raise the voltage for the final stage to a point past
the highest voltage of the final 'I' charge phase, that would be about
220vdc to be safe, so that the charger stays in current limit during the
timeout phase. This is a fiddly task with a small screwdriver and
flashlight. About 3 turns is good. When the charging is done, I need
to remember to re adjust the acceptance voltage for the next bulk phase
while the batteries are charged so that I have a ready reference. I
don't know about you, but I like to be sleeping at 3:00 A.M. when I
would need to make the second 'I' phase change and then again at 6:00
A.M when I would need to reset the voltage for tomorrows (today evening)
bulk charge. A 20 turn counting knob on the voltage adjust would make
this a snap. Even a dumb circuit like in the Zivan would work. It just
senses the acceptance voltage, then latches in a relay to change the
voltage and current limits for the final 'I' phase. The relay only
resets when power is removed. The timer starts when acceptance voltage
is reached.
How about a little board that plugs onto the accessory header inside the
charger with the relay(s), latching ciruit, and two pots that set the
second voltage and current limit? Watch for the yellow limit light and
trip the latch. Leave the bulk current and acceptance voltage on the
front panel. I would need to remove the charger cover to change the
final phase settings, but I can't think of when I would do that. The
bulk charge current adjust as well as the acceptance voltage adjust on
the front panel are handy due to different AC receptacles and temperture.
Paul Wallace
'91 Chevy S-10 full of SAFT nicads
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Hi folks,
Harrah's auto museum here in Reno Nevada has a 1912 Baker Electric
I don't know if it runs but it still has the edison cells in it and
looks complete.
Bill Brinsmead
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Paul Wallace writes:
>
> How about a little board that plugs onto the accessory header inside the
> charger with the relay(s), latching ciruit, and two pots that set the
> second voltage and current limit? Watch for the yellow limit light and
> trip the latch. Leave the bulk current and acceptance voltage on the
> front panel. I would need to remove the charger cover to change the
> final phase settings, but I can't think of when I would do that. The
> bulk charge current adjust as well as the acceptance voltage adjust on
> the front panel are handy due to different AC receptacles and temperture.
Paul,
Look at the "Remote control" Q&A and schematics on Manzanita Micro's
web page (http://www.manzanitamicro.com/download.htm). You could adapt
this circuit to do what you outline above.
Ralph
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www.soneil.com - Lists dealers as well
--- Gravity Girl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Wondering if anyone knows where to get a 48v Soneil
> charger.
>
> Evparts is out, and says they are backordered at
> least a month <sigh>
>
>
> -Cristin
>
>
> --
>
> La Bola Ocho Magica dice: ME FALTAN DATOS
>
>
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perhaps i will try a fairing on my new one
the 2x range i Like
never cared much for fairings
but i want effiency so i may try a fairing
perhaps the fairing like on wolfgang's bike would work
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/553.html
thanks Marco
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From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Motorcycle Range, speed, Re: Motorcycle transmissions
> Hi Marc and All,
> --- Marc Michon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > heres some data on mine have 3,000 miles on it
> > www.austinev.org/evalbum/487.html
> > 45 mph 3960w the sweet spot
> > 50 mph 4320w
> > 55mph & full acceleration 8640w
>
> Wow! That's more than my e-woody by 25% with side
> by side seating. Guess it really shows how un-aero
> motorcycles are and the need for good fairing, bodies
> for range and speed.
> And the e-woody isn't that aero!
> Thanks,
> jerry dycus
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Hi Marc and All,
--- Marc Michon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> perhaps i will try a fairing on my new one
> the 2x range i Like
> never cared much for fairings
> but i want effiency so i may try a fairing
> perhaps the fairing like on wolfgang's bike would
> work
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/553.html
The top part is cool but it should be a little
wider there and a lot wider lower and swept back
another foot, like the top is so all the bike, rider
is in it's wind shadow and leading the air aft
cleanly.
I'm talking about motorcycles here and 50+ mph. On
EV's below 30 mph like the recumbent, it doesn't
matter much.
HTH's,
jerry dycus
> thanks Marco
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Motorcycle Range, speed, Re: Motorcycle
> transmissions
>
>
> > Hi Marc and All,
> > --- Marc Michon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > heres some data on mine have 3,000 miles on it
> > > www.austinev.org/evalbum/487.html
> > > 45 mph 3960w the sweet spot
> > > 50 mph 4320w
> > > 55mph & full acceleration 8640w
> >
> > Wow! That's more than my e-woody by 25% with
> side
> > by side seating. Guess it really shows how un-aero
> > motorcycles are and the need for good fairing,
> bodies
> > for range and speed.
> > And the e-woody isn't that aero!
> > Thanks,
> > jerry dycus
>
>
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On 3 Nov 2004 at 12:41, Jon Glauser wrote:
> it just
> seems that the current limit has been set to about 10-20A.
Sounds like low battery voltage cutback. Make sure you don't have a bum
module or two in the pack.
I've also had a Curtis PMC-25 act similarly when the logic power supply had
gone south. It would deliver no more than perhaps 40-50 amps.
HTH.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I have a 48v charger on its way to me now!
-Cristin
On Nov 3, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Bruce Weisenberger wrote:
www.soneil.com - Lists dealers as well
--- Gravity Girl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all-
Wondering if anyone knows where to get a 48v Soneil
charger.
Evparts is out, and says they are backordered at
least a month <sigh>
-Cristin
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If you did not have enough to do... how about building a battery
desulfation generator: http://www.shaka.com/~kalepa/desulf.htm
This also includes a BBS with some moderate activity:
http://p198.ezboard.com/bleadacidbatterydesulfation
Sounds kinda like eating fiber: keeps the insides nice and clean.
Have fun!
Don
See the New Beetle EV Conversion Web Site at
www.cameronsoftware.com/ev/
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The document has been on the download page since August 27, 2004. The
address of the document is
http://www.manzanitamicro.com/installpfc20revB%20no%20photo.doc. The section
you need is near the bottom of page 4.
You can reach it through Manzanita Micro's download page at
http://www.manzanitamicro.com/download.htm.
The links to the figures for the document are on the download page in the
fifth line past the Word Documents heading.
Check if the information you need is there. If not, then I need to update
the document so it is clearly visible.
Joe Smalley
Rural Kitsap County WA
Fiesta 48 volts
NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
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From: "Paul Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to
Greg McCrea and Gary Flo? answer to Rich
> Rich,
> I thought about the two step process you describe, but then I couldn't
> figure out where the '0' click is on the timer dial. The little scew
> adjust has no stops, rotating continuously in either direction. The
> reference point isn't in the documentation that I can find. Your list
> reply makes this a little more clear, execept that I would expect the
> dial to rotate almost a complete turn for 15 clicks so both end of the
> screwdriver slot will pass the 3:00 position during rotation, one for
> '0' and one for '8'. This still leaves the question of which end of the
> screwdriver slot is the pointer or reference. Mine isn't marked in any
way.
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Anyone know about the Excide Orbital Extreme 8VXCD?
It is an 8-volt AGM, sized to match the standard golf cart battery,
rated at 150 Ahrs. Their web site doesn't list a maximum current or
internal resistance for this battery.
I have been looking at switching from floodeds (145's) to the 34XCD's,
but I'm concerned I will loose too much range. Since I'd be using the
existing battery boxes, I'd still have 22 batteries but for a total
weight of only 900 pounds rather that 1540 pounds. So a fun but short range.
With 22 of the 8VXCDs I'd keep my weight up to 1340 pounds which would
keep the range up. If these batteries are OK with modest currents (by
34XCD levels) of say 500 amps, I'd be set... the best of both worlds.
And yes I have a controller, dc/dc, and charger that can handle the
higher system voltage as I once ran flooded 8 volt batteries.
So I'd be interested if anyone has seen or used the 8VXCDs.
_________
Jim Coate
1970's Elec-Trak
1992 Chevy S-10 BEV
1997 Chevy S-10 NGV
http://www.eeevee.com
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Jim Coate wrote:
Anyone know about the Excide Orbital Extreme 8VXCD?
It is an 8-volt AGM, sized to match the standard golf cart battery, rated
at 150 Ahrs. Their web site doesn't list a maximum current or internal
resistance for this battery.
Can you share the website link? I can't seem to find this one anywhere.
Thanks,
Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
'95 Solectria Force
Kansas City, Missouri
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I thought I had the B-W T5 in my 94 Silverado, but maybe not. Mine does
not detach from the bell housing, sure would be nice if it did. But other
than that, it is as you describe.
How "tough" are you? When I change manual transmissions, I find it easiest
to jack up and support the truck, then slide under it on a creeper,
disconnect the transmission, pull it off, set it on my chest or hips, and
slide out from under the truck, reverse the procedure to re-install. Tried
using a transmission jack, the creeper is way easier and faster. And the
trannies aren't really all that heavy(to me). I'd go to a junkyard and
pick one up first, just to be sure.
The noise you're experiencing sounds identical to a noise in my
transmission. I can hear it well, and this is still connected to a
thundering 350, so it must be "loud as hell" in your truck. Anyway, it is
the input shaft bearing gone bad. Yes some transmissions don't have an
input shaft bearing, and rely on a pilot bearing in the engine, but not
these. Mine first went at 93,000 miles. By went I mean it was gone,
destroyed, the only evidence that it was ever there was one race and half
a ball remained (the ball was in the bottom of the transmission). It went
again at about 134,000. I ignored it.... the truck now has 198,000 miles
ont it. (Count 'em, 64,000 miles with no bearing) I've noticed no
transmission problems, other than the growling in neutral. I need a new
clutch, I may replace the bearing, when I do the clutch. I wish my
transmission came apart at the bellhousing(you lucky dog). I was quoted
$750.00 labor to change the clutch. I guess it's time to hit the gym and
work on the chest ;-)
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Hump
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right!" --Henry Ford
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Paul Wallace
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:02 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: What is the service life of transmission and differential
> fluids? reply to Pat
>
>
> Pat,
> the clutch is hydraulic. There is no adjustment available. I suppose
> that there could be air in the the line, or possibly a leak, but it has
> been working fine. I don't know how much clutch drag is normal with the
> pedal all the way down. My garage floor has a very (almost
> impreceptable) slant towards the door. I can easily push the truck
> (about 1.5 tons) into the garage against the slope with one hand. If I
> push the clutch in and release the brakes while the truck is sitting in
> the garage, it will drift slowly towards the garage door. If I hold
> the clutch pedal down hard and spin the motor about 3000rpm, the
> drifting backwards just stops, but the truck does not move forward. Is
> this too much drag? I have always heard the clutch plate rubbing
> against the pressure plate and flywheel when I push in the pedal since
> there is no exaust noise to mask it. If the radio is on and the windows
> are up, I don't hear it. I don't think that the throwout bearing is
> bad. As far as I know, if they are failing they make a howling noise
> when the clutch is depressed. If I have the transmission in neutral and
> push the clutch pedal down to the floor with the motor turning about
> 3000rpm, the drive train actually gets quieter. The only noise at this
> point is the commutator whine and a little vibration from the
> flywheel/clutch pack. If I let the clutch back out, still in neutral,
> there is all sorts of bearing noise and more vibration, but this has
> always been the case since I had the transmission rebuilt and put the
> clutch back in. When I get a moment, I'm going to pull the slave
> cylinder and peek in through the little access door on the side of the
> transmission to see if there is an oil seal failure from the front of
> the transmission. I am suspicious since there is an oily mark at the
> bottom of the adaptor plate where the spacer to the motor attaches.
>
> I suspect that the synchros are having a problem. When I down shift, I
> always double clutch. The transmission shifts down easily this way. If
> I don't double clutch, then it is quite difficult to get the next lower
> gear to engage. It is now always difficult to up shift. I have to hold
> the shift lever against the next gear for several seconds before it will
> go into gear, and then it clashes a little. This reminds me of when the
> truck was clutchless. If the truck is not moving, it shifts easily into
> all gears.
>
> Paul Wallace
> '91 Chevy S-10 full of SAFT nicads
>
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The Syracuse Yellow Pages show;
Coast to Coast Auto Transport
www.coasttocoastauto.com
800-794-9009
Dependable auto shippers
800-826-1083
Fields
315-475-2498
Northeast Transportation and Repossession
315-463-4520
JR's Auto Transport
800-587-3315
WR Auto Transport
800-478-7683
I have NO EXPERIENCE with any of the above....
There's a few more but they specify NY to FL, not sure if they head west.
If I can be of any assistance, let me know.
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Stay Charged!
Hump
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right!" --Henry Ford
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Hawkins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Transport -- NY to CO -- beware of these folks ...
>
>
> I was just ripped off by "American Auto Relocation Professionals," Long
> Island, NY. Beware of those folks.
>
> In shipping an EV TeVan from Syracuse to Denver they have no-showed 4
> pick-up agreements over the past 1.5 weeks and left me in a bind to move
> my
> new EV. These people are as low as it gets. They have delayed my
> transport
> for 3 weeks and left me high and dry.
>
> If anyone knows of any "honorable" transporters working the NY to CO route
> pls let me know.
>
> Steve
>
>
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Did you see this on the PDF sheet from the Excide web sheet targeting
low-riders? If so, I called Excide about these about a year ago, and
the tech guy said there was no 8V version of the XCD in development.
They said something about out of control marketing guys...
They said there was 31 XCD in development but unknown when/if they
would go into production.
Lynn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Coate
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: orbital extreme 8VXCD?
Anyone know about the Excide Orbital Extreme 8VXCD?
It is an 8-volt AGM, sized to match the standard golf cart battery,
rated at 150 Ahrs. Their web site doesn't list a maximum current or
internal resistance for this battery.
I have been looking at switching from floodeds (145's) to the 34XCD's,
but I'm concerned I will loose too much range. Since I'd be using the
existing battery boxes, I'd still have 22 batteries but for a total
weight of only 900 pounds rather that 1540 pounds. So a fun but short
range.
With 22 of the 8VXCDs I'd keep my weight up to 1340 pounds which would
keep the range up. If these batteries are OK with modest currents (by
34XCD levels) of say 500 amps, I'd be set... the best of both worlds.
And yes I have a controller, dc/dc, and charger that can handle the
higher system voltage as I once ran flooded 8 volt batteries.
So I'd be interested if anyone has seen or used the 8VXCDs.
_________
Jim Coate
1970's Elec-Trak
1992 Chevy S-10 BEV
1997 Chevy S-10 NGV
http://www.eeevee.com
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From: "Paul Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zivan K2 trouble, any one have a spare? what has happened to
Greg McCrea and Gary Flo? answer to Rich
> Rich,
> I thought about the two step process you describe, but then I couldn't
> figure out where the '0' click is on the timer dial. The little scew
> adjust has no stops, rotating continuously in either direction. The
> reference point isn't in the documentation that I can find. Your list
> reply makes this a little more clear, execept that I would expect the
> dial to rotate almost a complete turn for 15 clicks so both end of the
> screwdriver slot will pass the 3:00 position during rotation, one for
> '0' and one for '8'. This still leaves the question of which end of the
> screwdriver slot is the pointer or reference. Mine isn't marked in any
way.
>
It's really clear when you have the blue plate offf.... the markings are on
the base of the Digi pot...
If you look really carfully the screwdriver slot has a little arrow.....
This arrow When pointing to the 3 O'clock position... is 0. Don't use this
since it set zero time, and the Blue locks on solid on power up.
The slot will be vertical when you get it right.
There are NO stops on this Rotary Hexadecimal pot.
Max time is this pointer at the 2:30 click.
> I actually need to raise the voltage for the final stage to a point past
> the highest voltage of the final 'I' charge phase, that would be about
> 220vdc to be safe, so that the charger stays in current limit during the
> timeout phase. This is a fiddly task with a small screwdriver and
> flashlight. About 3 turns is good. When the charging is done, I need
> to remember to re adjust the acceptance voltage for the next bulk phase
> while the batteries are charged so that I have a ready reference. I
> don't know about you, but I like to be sleeping at 3:00 A.M. when I
> would need to make the second 'I' phase change and then again at 6:00
> A.M when I would need to reset the voltage for tomorrows (today evening)
> bulk charge. A 20 turn counting knob on the voltage adjust would make
> this a snap. Even a dumb circuit like in the Zivan would work. It just
> senses the acceptance voltage, then latches in a relay to change the
> voltage and current limits for the final 'I' phase. The relay only
> resets when power is removed. The timer starts when acceptance voltage
> is reached.
>
> How about a little board that plugs onto the accessory header inside the
> charger with the relay(s), latching ciruit, and two pots that set the
> second voltage and current limit? Watch for the yellow limit light and
> trip the latch. Leave the bulk current and acceptance voltage on the
> front panel. I would need to remove the charger cover to change the
> final phase settings, but I can't think of when I would do that. The
> bulk charge current adjust as well as the acceptance voltage adjust on
> the front panel are handy due to different AC receptacles and temperture.
>
> Paul Wallace
> '91 Chevy S-10 full of SAFT nicads
>
A second timer... and setting would require more circuitry.....It's not some
hack that Joe and I can pull out of a hat...If it were we would have made it
happen years ago.
The timer in this thing is a 3 chipset... with a couple dozzen passives,and
the DipSw bank and the rotary Hexpot. It's about %30 of the total
realeastate of the controller.
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If anybody has a sample, I would love toss some cycles on them.
I have some Apps that may need 100s of amphours,, and possibly 1000 amp 30
second peak loads.
If the 8VXCD is as stout and well buildt as the 34XCD, I will be in heaven.
Any body got a cost???
Do we have a AGM that can slug it out with a T-105 or 875??
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From: "Jim Coate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:09 AM
Subject: orbital extreme 8VXCD?
> Anyone know about the Excide Orbital Extreme 8VXCD?
>
> It is an 8-volt AGM, sized to match the standard golf cart battery,
> rated at 150 Ahrs. Their web site doesn't list a maximum current or
> internal resistance for this battery.
>
> I have been looking at switching from floodeds (145's) to the 34XCD's,
> but I'm concerned I will loose too much range. Since I'd be using the
> existing battery boxes, I'd still have 22 batteries but for a total
> weight of only 900 pounds rather that 1540 pounds. So a fun but short
range.
>
> With 22 of the 8VXCDs I'd keep my weight up to 1340 pounds which would
> keep the range up. If these batteries are OK with modest currents (by
> 34XCD levels) of say 500 amps, I'd be set... the best of both worlds.
> And yes I have a controller, dc/dc, and charger that can handle the
> higher system voltage as I once ran flooded 8 volt batteries.
>
> So I'd be interested if anyone has seen or used the 8VXCDs.
>
> _________
> Jim Coate
> 1970's Elec-Trak
> 1992 Chevy S-10 BEV
> 1997 Chevy S-10 NGV
> http://www.eeevee.com
>
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Paul, it sounds like your clutch is probably OK. I agree that you
probably have synchromesh damage. I believe that shifting clutchless is
bad for your transmission. When you shift without the clutch you are
using the synchros to accelerate (or decelerate, depending on if you are
shifting up or down) the mass of not only the clutch plate, but the
flywheel (if used), the pressure plate (if used), and the motor
armature. The rotational inertia of these components has to be several
times that of just the clutch plate by itself. This creates additional
stress on the syncho components which they were not designed for. Most
of the damage was probably done when you had the truck setup clutchless,
and you just finished it off recently after going to the clutch. Just
my 2 cents.
Patrick
1981 Jet Electrica
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/3/04 10:02:22 AM >>>
I suspect that the synchros are having a problem. When I down shift, I
always double clutch. The transmission shifts down easily this way.
If
I don't double clutch, then it is quite difficult to get the next lower
gear to engage. It is now always difficult to up shift. I have to
hold
the shift lever against the next gear for several seconds before it
will
go into gear, and then it clashes a little. This reminds me of when
the
truck was clutchless. If the truck is not moving, it shifts easily
into
all gears.
Paul Wallace
'91 Chevy S-10 full of SAFT nicads
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I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with attachments to
everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily unsubscribe this user
until he removes the virus from his system so we can stop getting these
messages? I've attempted to write him directly, but received no response.
I know someone on the list mentioned that we should write them directly, but
I can't find that information.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rmanzan
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Ev
Subject: Re: Thanks :)
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Eddie Pettit wrote:
I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with attachments to
everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily unsubscribe this user
More likely, some other user has a virus, and is forging mails as this user.
So while unsubscribing that person would stop the mails, said user could
not fix their problem, it not being their problem.
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Yes, that's a valid possibility too.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Derrick J Brashear
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Thanks :)
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Eddie Pettit wrote:
> I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with
> attachments to everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily
> unsubscribe this user
More likely, some other user has a virus, and is forging mails as this user.
So while unsubscribing that person would stop the mails, said user could
not fix their problem, it not being their problem.
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Hi all,
There is a method by which we could track the actual machine that sent
the e-mail attachements, well at least it's IP number which then could
be analyzed to yield the Internet Service Provider. Then once we get
this information we would need to post the ISP name and have everyone
who uses that ISP to check their systems. Most likely this is either the
new Bagle variant or and older NetSky. Most likely with the e-mails that
I've seen it looks like the newer Bagle variant.
Just my thoughts on this... thanks,
Stefano
Eddie Pettit wrote:
Yes, that's a valid possibility too.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Derrick J Brashear
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Thanks :)
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Eddie Pettit wrote:
I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with
attachments to everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily
unsubscribe this user
More likely, some other user has a virus, and is forging mails as this user.
So while unsubscribing that person would stop the mails, said user could
not fix their problem, it not being their problem.
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I also wrote this person, w/ no response.
Eddie Pettit wrote:
I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with attachments to
everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily unsubscribe this user
until he removes the virus from his system so we can stop getting these
messages? I've attempted to write him directly, but received no response.
I know someone on the list mentioned that we should write them directly, but
I can't find that information.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rmanzan
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Ev
Subject: Re: Thanks :)
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The listproc received it from
SKYPOINT
a wireless access provider in Spain.
--
Stay Charged!
Hump
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right!" --Henry Ford
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Stefano Landi
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Thanks :)
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> There is a method by which we could track the actual machine that sent
> the e-mail attachements, well at least it's IP number which then could
> be analyzed to yield the Internet Service Provider. Then once we get
> this information we would need to post the ISP name and have everyone
> who uses that ISP to check their systems. Most likely this is either the
> new Bagle variant or and older NetSky. Most likely with the e-mails that
> I've seen it looks like the newer Bagle variant.
>
> Just my thoughts on this... thanks,
>
> Stefano
>
> Eddie Pettit wrote:
>
>>Yes, that's a valid possibility too.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of Derrick J Brashear
>>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:16 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: Thanks :)
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Eddie Pettit wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I believe this user has a virus that is sending emails with
>>>attachments to everyone in his address book. Can someone temporarily
>>>unsubscribe this user
>>>
>>>
>>
>>More likely, some other user has a virus, and is forging mails as this
>>user.
>>
>>So while unsubscribing that person would stop the mails, said user
>>could
>>not fix their problem, it not being their problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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More interested in a 1910-20's that has been converted to electric.
The need is old looking (like Model T type car) that can be driven indoors,
and the only thing that can be driven indoors in the city of LA is an
Electric.
So the request is for a Model T'ish car that has an electric drive system
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of William Brinsmead
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:08 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: Production Company looking for turn of the century (type)
electri c car
Hi folks,
Harrah's auto museum here in Reno Nevada has a 1912 Baker Electric
I don't know if it runs but it still has the edison cells in it and
looks complete.
Bill Brinsmead
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If you are reading this from Spain, and Rich Rudman is in your
address book, please check your machine for viruses.
Non Microsoft users need not worry, we have better software than that.
They are posting from 80.81.104.101
The person is a lurker, at least this year has not posted to the list
besides this virus.
The ISP they are using is Skypoint and it seems to be located in Spain.
details here:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=80.81.104.101
hth,
Hi all,
There is a method by which we could track the actual machine that
sent the e-mail attachements, well at least it's IP number which
then could be analyzed to yield the Internet Service Provider.
--
-Otmar-
http://www.CafeElectric.com/ Home of the Zilla.
http://www.evcl.com/914 My electric 914
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