EV Digest 5131
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: 99 Ranger EV on E-Bay in LA (no reserve) Item number: 4607082651
by Ron Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re-Post Video Source for Wrightspeed vs Ferreri
by Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: Re-Post Video Source for Wrightspeed vs Ferreri
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Wrightspeed Video AOK KRON-Ch. 4 TV
by Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: registering a conversion in CT.........Fun Stuff!
by ROBERT RICE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
by Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: registering a conversion in CT.........Fun Stuff!
by "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Advice on relay coils
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
by Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Exide Deep Cycle Batteries
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Controller placement question
by Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
by "Philippe Borges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Was exide batteries
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16) Re: Controller placement question
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: OT - New Name for the EVDL
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: Futurecrush
by "Philippe Borges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) need help moving car
by Seth Rothenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re:CURRENT ELIMINATOR DRAGSTER NEWS!!!
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21) Re: Exide Deep Cycle Batteries
by Matt Milliron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Increasing Range
by "John G. Lussmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re:CURRENT ELIMINATOR DRAGSTER NEWS!!!
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) We Are in Serious Trouble at dragtimes.com
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) new name
by Seth Rothenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: Controller placement question
by Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) New feature...EVs spotlighted at dragtimes.com
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: need help moving car
by "Paul G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Re: new name
by "Paul G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
30) Re: Increasing Range
by "Jaroslaw \"Jaros\" Berezowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
31) Re: Increasing Range
by "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Complete Performance data is available for a variety of vehicles at:
http://ev.inel.gov/fsev.shtml
1999 Ford Ranger with NiMH Batteries
Acceleration 0-50 mph @ 100% SOC: 10.3 sec
Acceleration 0-50 mph @ 50% SOC: 11.2 sec
Range @ 45 mph: 115
Efficiency: 242 Wh/mile
Range @ 60 mph: 74.2
Efficiency: 362 Wh/mile
Charger Efficiency: 485 Wh-AC/mile
Ron
Curtis Keller wrote:
Is the claimed 70 - 80 miles of range realistic?
My round trip is 25 miles - so the DOD for daily drive would be 30-40%.
Any one have performance data? 0 - 60 time?
On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
1999 Ford Ranger EV Electric Vehicle NiMh E V NIMH
VERY RARE, LOW MILES, NO RESERVE - Highest Bidder WINS!
Item number: 4607082651
--
Curtis Keller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cant seem to SIFT thru all these days of info on Wrightspeed, to find
the links to some TV-station clips. I think the station was something
like KOVO-TV ( or KO...something...)
any way... there was a related download problem. There was a lo-res
file, for like a dial-up web connection, which I ( automatically )
viewed but quite fuzzy... then right next, was one marked for cable
modem speed. But when I "clicked" on IT, it just downloaded pages
and pages of CODE. In other words, neither of my 3 video viewing
programs ( QuickTime, MicrosoftMedia, Real/audioVideo ) would recognize
this STUFF and play the video... What is with THAT ???
I also wrote directly to Daryl the following message:
-----------------------
Darl why is it this .wmv movie just turn into pages and pages of CODE,
when I "Click" on it, rather than trigerring one of my 3 video playing
programs: quicktime, Windows Media, and real/audio/video which seem to
work with almost every video feed / download I come across..?
Would LOVE to see the Wrightspeed x1 in action !
http://www.darelldd.com/ev/movies/wrightspeed.wmv
--------------------------
My local guru suggested I download all the Pages of Code, and then try
accessing it with one of my media players... Question IS... Why won't
it just start playing Automatically ???
--
Steven S. Lough, Pres.
Seattle EV Association
6021 32nd Ave. N.E.
Seattle, WA 98115-7230
Day: 206 850-8535
Eve: 206 524-1351
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.seattleeva.org
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Steven Lough wrote:
> modem speed. But when I "clicked" on IT, it just downloaded pages
> and pages of CODE.
Right click the link and choose "save target as" and download it to
your hard drive. After it gets done downloading, then proceed to
watch it and it won't display code in your browser.
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Hope we haven't got all the Web Guru's working on this for nothing, but
taking our local Web Guys advice, I down-loaded ALL the Code, and then
Saved it... and then "Clicking" on it as a .wmv file, and it played
SPLENDIDLY in MediaPlayer AOK.
Still ...It beggs the question... wonder why some files just play
straight away, and THIS one had to be handled differently ??
--
Steven S. Lough, Pres.
Seattle EV Association
6021 32nd Ave. N.E.
Seattle, WA 98115-7230
Day: 206 850-8535
Eve: 206 524-1351
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.seattleeva.org
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Fortunat Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have good news to share about
registering a
conversion in CT (Dave Cover, i am looking at you);
once you figure out how who to call, it is very easy.
Hi Fortunat an' All;
Yeah! I went through a variation of that AFTER CT got out of the smog
check biz. My Rabbit's number came up last year, it IS an' 82, so I got the
first notice to take it in. Ignored it til the second and third one showed up.
Hell, I thought? I DID check the damn box on the registration form under fuel;
they gave ya a lovely selection; gas, Duh?! Propane, Diseasel, AND, Drum
Roll......., ELECTRIC! I figgured I was home free, but nope! Well I finally
tried to pick out an honest looking garage by name<g>! Drove down there and
asked for a smog check, Well, can't do it the guy sez, NO tailpipe. But he DID
give me a number at sonebody at the State. I actually got a real live PERSON, I
was shocked, no pun intended!I told him my story, that I had owned the Rabbit
for thousands of years as a Diseasel, he liked that, and had converted it
myself to electric. He asked all about it, How fast will it go? Far? how many
batteries, voltage. When it was MY turn I asked him if there was !
any way
Corrupticut could count all the Electrics in CT by the registration? Nope.
wasn't set up that way. I asked him if he knew the guy in CDOT that was
experimenting with EV's with CT's Force Fleet. I couldn't have an " Electric"
tag. Sigh! Already taken EVen 'lectric 1-2-an' 3. Guess I coulda asked for "
AEM-7" the model no. of my OTHER electrics, Amtrak's AEM-7 fleet, of which I
rolled up alot of miles over the years.After a very nice chat session with the
guy, he agreeed to change the Vin no , no NOT the number, cept to drop that it
was a Diesel.in the state's archives, The smog folks haven't bothered me
since.I was in awe that it was so pleasent and nice dealing with the
State.Sorta like going to the DMV and being done an' out in 5 minutes, a non EV
grin intact.So I hope that EVerybody else can have that that good?
For other CT EVers, the moral is, call the Tech Center
in Chesire 207-271-5427. They will hook you up.
Are ya SHURE? All Ct AC's are 203 or 860?
can't wait to put the tags on and go for a spin.
Great! When ya get it goin' drop down to Killingworth! lottsa wall outlets
an' 240 plugs for feeding!
~fortunat
Seeya
Bob, be home to CT Tomorrow!
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Hello to All,
It's a 308.4 MB file. I downloaded at the 381 KB rate, so it took about
7-8 minutes. My Mac crunched and saved it with no problems...plays with
Real Movie player.
See Ya......John Wayland
Bruce Weisenberger wrote:
Download button on right side of the video.There are also several other EV
files if you hit the more videos tab on top of page. Very big avi file had to
cansel due to time limit but stopped at 50 MB. Will attempt to save tonight
Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Computer gurus,
Does anyone knows how to save this interview as a file to a hard disk
(as .wmf or .avi, or whatever)?
Victor
Mike Ellis wrote:
A quick search of my gmail account is telling me that no one has posted this
before. It's a very nice little documentary on the EV1 and the recent
crushing of said car.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974264721033016884&q=electric+car
-Mike
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The download lets you download the player. When I did this, it seemed to
still stream the content. The link I gave in the last email (
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/01/download-watch-google-videos-in-any.html)
has some instructions for downloading and converting google video.
I'm not sure it's as easy for us PC users as it was for John.
I've also come across some other sites that will help you download google
video. Just search for download google video at www.digg.com there have been
a number of posts on that topic.
-Mike
On 1/28/06, Bruce Weisenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Download button on right side of the video.There are also several other EV
> files if you hit the more videos tab on top of page. Very big avi file had
> to cansel due to time limit but stopped at 50 MB. Will attempt to save
> tonight
>
> Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Computer gurus,
>
> Does anyone knows how to save this interview as a file to a hard disk
> (as .wmf or .avi, or whatever)?
>
> Victor
>
> Mike Ellis wrote:
> > A quick search of my gmail account is telling me that no one has posted
> this
> > before. It's a very nice little documentary on the EV1 and the recent
> > crushing of said car.
> >
> >
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974264721033016884&q=electric+car
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos
>
>
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Hello Bob,
Next time, put a couple of exhaust tips sticking out, so now they have a
tailpipe to hook up to. Start up the motor and see what kind of readings they
will get.
I always like to put the biggest exhaust tips on my EV, something in the 6 inch
diameter range, so I can install 6 inch speakers in them, which I can make them
sound like any thing you what that will blow the person that follows too close
to see what I got back some. Blows there hood off but not the doors.
When I transported the Transformer I home from the Electric Fuel Propulsion
Company in Troy Michigan, I took the car to a testing center. We all knew what
the results would be, but we hook up all the sensors any way to the 12 volt
control wiring, motor temperature temperature sender, rpm sender and to the
battery exhaust fan pipe that went down and out like a tail pipe.
Ran the EV on the rollers up to 60 mph. Everything ran 0.00 except one thing
that we found out that the air was in the shop was a little dirty from all the
tire rubber dust on the rollers.
Roland
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From: ROBERT RICE<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: registering a conversion in CT.........Fun Stuff!
Fortunat Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I
have good news to share about registering a
conversion in CT (Dave Cover, i am looking at you);
once you figure out how who to call, it is very easy.
Hi Fortunat an' All;
Yeah! I went through a variation of that AFTER CT got out of the smog
check biz. My Rabbit's number came up last year, it IS an' 82, so I got the
first notice to take it in. Ignored it til the second and third one showed up.
Hell, I thought? I DID check the damn box on the registration form under fuel;
they gave ya a lovely selection; gas, Duh?! Propane, Diseasel, AND, Drum
Roll......., ELECTRIC! I figgured I was home free, but nope! Well I finally
tried to pick out an honest looking garage by name<g>! Drove down there and
asked for a smog check, Well, can't do it the guy sez, NO tailpipe. But he DID
give me a number at sonebody at the State. I actually got a real live PERSON, I
was shocked, no pun intended!I told him my story, that I had owned the Rabbit
for thousands of years as a Diseasel, he liked that, and had converted it
myself to electric. He asked all about it, How fast will it go? Far? how many
batteries, voltage. When it was MY turn I asked him if there wa!
s !
any way
Corrupticut could count all the Electrics in CT by the registration? Nope.
wasn't set up that way. I asked him if he knew the guy in CDOT that was
experimenting with EV's with CT's Force Fleet. I couldn't have an " Electric"
tag. Sigh! Already taken EVen 'lectric 1-2-an' 3. Guess I coulda asked for "
AEM-7" the model no. of my OTHER electrics, Amtrak's AEM-7 fleet, of which I
rolled up alot of miles over the years.After a very nice chat session with the
guy, he agreeed to change the Vin no , no NOT the number, cept to drop that it
was a Diesel.in the state's archives, The smog folks haven't bothered me
since.I was in awe that it was so pleasent and nice dealing with the
State.Sorta like going to the DMV and being done an' out in 5 minutes, a non EV
grin intact.So I hope that EVerybody else can have that that good?
For other CT EVers, the moral is, call the Tech Center
in Chesire 207-271-5427. They will hook you up.
Are ya SHURE? All Ct AC's are 203 or 860?
can't wait to put the tags on and go for a spin.
Great! When ya get it goin' drop down to Killingworth! lottsa wall
outlets an' 240 plugs for feeding!
~fortunat
Seeya
Bob, be home to CT Tomorrow!
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/>
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John Luck Home wrote:
> Wow - thanks for the explanation...
You're welcome. Probably more than you ever needed to know, but it's
there just in case.
> I have now found a contactor rated 24V DC and yet they then show
> this graphically as both a straight line and also a dotted line
> which I always to as meaning AC or DC operation.
Maybe. You'd have to find the key for that graph to know for sure.
> I was going to try the little bridge rectifier solution...
> to take the 24V AC and I assumed it would produce 1.414 x the 24V
> AC once I had hung a capacitor across the DC output. A limiting
> resistor too if needed and I'm all set.
You don't need or want a filter capacitor; it does the wrong things.
First, it raises the average DC voltage to the peak of the AC line;
24vac would give 24vdc x 1.4 = 33vdc out. Too much for a 24vdc coil.
Second, the capacitor delays the drop-out time of the relay. This causes
extra contact wear and shortens life.
Use the bridge rectifier with no capacitor. The inductance of the coil
provides the filtering action by itself. 24vac rectified *without* the
capacitor produces 24vdc (average).
> It would be simpler to find an AC rated 24 volt relay though!
Yes. That's the bottom line.
--
If you would not be forgotten
When your body's dead and rotten
Then write of great deeds worth the reading
Or do the great deeds worth repeating
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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They want you to buy this video (!) so seems like don't offer direct
downloads. I'm surprised John was able to do it. When I click
on download it is ready to "save as" FutureCrusch.gvp file which I
assume is the large video file. But when I specify where to save,
it saves only 1kb of ASCII text which is description of the content.
Here is what the site says in download FAQ section:
==================================================
Downloading and Purchasing
If I buy a video once, do I need to buy it again to watch it on another
computer?
No. Once you buy a video, you can download it to other computers up to
several times.
Why do I need the Google Video Player to watch videos I've purchased?
Most of the videos for sale on Google Video are copy-protected. The
Google Video Player allows you to watch this copy-protected content in
addition to other videos you download.
Why do I need to be connected to the Internet to view copy-protected videos?
Copy-protected videos are encrypted files. To decrypt these files and
allow you to view the video's content, the Google Video Player needs to
communicate with Google over an active Internet connection.
Can I use a Mac to watch videos I've purchased?
No. If you have a Mac, you can't watch purchased, copy-protected videos.
At this time, you can only watch videos that aren't copy-protected.
We look forward to offering more options in the future.
=============================================
So, John, what's the secret?
Victor
Bruce Weisenberger wrote:
Download button on right side of the video.There are also several
other EV files if you hit the more videos tab on top of page. Very
big avi file had to cansel due to time limit but stopped at 50 MB.
Will attempt to save tonight
Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Computer gurus,
Does anyone knows how to save this interview as a file to a hard disk
(as .wmf or .avi, or whatever)?
Victor
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Are you sure they are charging for this one? It came up in the free section
for me.
-Mike
On 1/28/06, Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They want you to buy this video (!) so seems like don't offer direct
> downloads. I'm surprised John was able to do it. When I click
> on download it is ready to "save as" FutureCrusch.gvp file which I
> assume is the large video file. But when I specify where to save,
> it saves only 1kb of ASCII text which is description of the content.
>
>
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mike golub wrote:
> I forgot to ask, but the Sam's Club batteries have 12 month
> warranty. Is it possible to use them up within 12 months?
You could abuse them to death in 12 months. But if used normally, they
should last a few years.
Having used Sam's Club (Exide) golf cart batteries myself, I will say
that they are not as good as Trojans or USB; but they were cheaper and
easier to get. If you're after the maximum in range and life, get
Trojans or USBs. If you want 'em cheap and now, use the Exides.
--
If you would not be forgotten
When your body's dead and rotten
Then write of great deeds worth the reading
Or do the great deeds worth repeating
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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Hey all,
I'm working on my skateboard design again today, and I am wondering about
the placement of the controller. Should it be as close to the motor as
possible, or does it only need to be near the string of batts?
-Mike
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this is what has worked for me:
cut and past in your internet browser the link given by HTML code as said
message before, let it download all, then go to your temporary internet
files and sort out bigger files, this one is 112Mo, extension is xxxx.flv
cut and past to my documents or other place it can stay and download FLV
player (free) to read it
cordialement,
Philippe
Et si le pot d'échappement sortait au centre du volant ?
quel carburant choisiriez-vous ?
http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr
Forum de discussion sur les véhicules électriques
http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr/Forum/index.php
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: How to download? (Re: Futurecrush)
> The download lets you download the player. When I did this, it seemed to
> still stream the content. The link I gave in the last email (
>
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/01/download-watch-google-videos-in-any.html)
> has some instructions for downloading and converting google video.
>
> I'm not sure it's as easy for us PC users as it was for John.
>
> I've also come across some other sites that will help you download google
> video. Just search for download google video at www.digg.com there have
been
> a number of posts on that topic.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On 1/28/06, Bruce Weisenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Download button on right side of the video.There are also several other
EV
> > files if you hit the more videos tab on top of page. Very big avi file
had
> > to cansel due to time limit but stopped at 50 MB. Will attempt to save
> > tonight
> >
> > Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Computer gurus,
> >
> > Does anyone knows how to save this interview as a file to a hard disk
> > (as .wmf or .avi, or whatever)?
> >
> > Victor
> >
> > Mike Ellis wrote:
> > > A quick search of my gmail account is telling me that no one has
posted
> > this
> > > before. It's a very nice little documentary on the EV1 and the recent
> > > crushing of said car.
> > >
> > >
> >
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974264721033016884&q=electric+car
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos
> >
> >
>
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Subject: Was exide batteries
So after seeing much debate mostly against but a few for the exide golf cart
batteries I have decided to really investigate other brands and
configurations. I'm very close to finishing the welding on my truck bed
which means paint is just around the corner and then batteries. I've got the
room for 20 6vts (System is 120 vt.) so that's probably my route since I'll
get the most range there. (Yet I really only need ~50 mile range 4-5 times a
month. Most days will be less than 10 miles total.)
What brands have shown the greatest life? Local availability would be great
but I'm within 1-3 hours of 5 decent cities (Cincinnati, Indianapolis,
Louisville, Nashville etc) And I'd like to keep my battery costs below
$1600.00.
With the moderate temperatures here (Central Kentucky extreme temps cold
here is ~10 F and hot may get ~95 F) would the building of a battery box
with heating / cooling integrated in really increase my useable battery
life? My rails are open as they are now (see:
http://www.electricsmart.com/ALFA/ALFA_IMG/ALFA_STRIP_3.jpg) but I have the
room to make two long aluminum boxes with an integral forced air cooling fan
and radiant heat pad in each box. This box could be on carrier wheels and
simply slide out onto a roller conveyor (I have in my shop) for battery
servicing. I have a friend with a sheet metal shop with really long breaks
so the box building would be pretty straight forward but is it really
needed??? It might cost ~$250 each box for the aluminum, heat pad and fans
so not too bad but other than a nice package what will it really get me??
Thanks to all for the advice.
Pedroman
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Mike Ellis wrote:
> I'm working on my skateboard design again today, and I am wondering
> about the placement of the controller. Should it be as close to the
> motor as possible, or does it only need to be near the string of
> batts?
What kind of controller -- AC or DC? DC controllers are less picky. AC
controllers can place restrictions on the length and type of wiring
between motor and controller.
Most of the concerns don't affect performance per se, but do affect
safety, noise, and other incidental things.
--
If you would not be forgotten
When your body's dead and rotten
Then write of great deeds worth the reading
Or do the great deeds worth repeating
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After two days of seemingly nothing but EV Racing, Air Cars, and
> World's Quickest, or Fastest... I was thinking we should just
> change the name of the EVDL to something like EVRO (Electric
> Vehicle Racing Only )
It runs in bursts. The topics keep changing. At the moment it seems to
be racing. At other times it may be on batteries, or the politics of
EVs, or the esoterics of design.
This is a big list with what, 1000+ subscribers? I suspect 90% of them
are quiet most of the time, and only chime in when they have a question
or something that interests them comes up.
I tend to skim the daily list quickly, finger poised over the DELETE
key, and discard all but a few posts in a matter of a few seconds each.
The few that survive get read more seriously, or answered, or sometimes
archived. The rest are just like the idle chatter at a party. I just
ignore the ones I don't like unless they are excessively loud, rude, or
blatantly wrong-headed.
> Yah... I know, I've got my butain lighter going here... But I fully
> realize how important EV Competition is ....Really I DO ! I love all
> aspects of EV Racing.. Just seems like it overtakes the
> EVDL somethimes....
>
> Makes me wonder where all the folks who are interested in other aspects
> of the EV world are. ??
>
> I love the EVDL and read it cover to cover twice a day....
--
If you would not be forgotten
When your body's dead and rotten
Then write of great deeds worth the reading
Or do the great deeds worth repeating
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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i forget to say: YES it helped !
Thanks :^)
cordialement,
Philippe
Et si le pot d'échappement sortait au centre du volant ?
quel carburant choisiriez-vous ?
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Forum de discussion sur les véhicules électriques
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From: "Mike Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Futurecrush
> Hi Philippe,
>
> Your news really bothered me... I mean what if I were suddenly to find
> myself in France and was depending on Google Video???
>
> So I did a little digging (www.digg.com) and found this article on how to
> get around the geolocating google does:
>
>
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/01/download-watch-google-videos-in-any.html
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On 1/28/06, Philippe Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > google video is not available over the pond (France)
> > :^(
> >
> > cordialement,
> > Philippe
> >
> > Et si le pot d'échappement sortait au centre du volant ?
> > quel carburant choisiriez-vous ?
> > http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr
> > Forum de discussion sur les véhicules électriques
> > http://vehiculeselectriques.free.fr/Forum/index.php
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: Futurecrush
> >
> >
> > >
> > > From: Mike Ellis
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974264721033016884&q=electric+car
> > >
> > > FutureCrusH
> > > This was made by Mike Patterson, a good friend of Dave (Battery
Boy)
> > Hawkins
> > > and myself. Mike told me some time ago to start watching for it, I'm
> > glad
> > to see
> > > that it's up! I've watched the first part of it,..... my dialup gives
me
> > another
> > > tantalizing little bit to watch every .........so often. Great so far!
> > Mike has made
> > > many great EV videos over the years, and has also recently been
> > importing
> > Twikes.
> > >
> > > ....John
> > >
> >
> >
>
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I mentioned here that I was considering a car
in Maryland, and asked advice how to get it to NJ.
Some people suggest I post details and might find help.
I have formulated a plan that seems reasonable,
but I thought I would ask first if anyone
on the list would be able to help me do this
more easily...or what you think of my plan?
(my suspicion is that there aren't many people
close enough for this to be practical/economical;
peoples' time is money even if they are generous)
My research suggests that paying a 3rd party
to move a dead car would be cost prohibitive - $850,
and using all rented equipment would be alot also.
(even renting a box truck, the big enough truck would
cost about $400.)
1. buy a hitch for one of the "family" vans, i.e.,
a. My Honda would really be at its limit,
especially since the trip is 200 miles.
However, it would be a great Return on Investment,
as I'll need the hitch to schlep the car to DMV
for inspection. But, car would probably be on
a "dolly", i.e., rear wheels on pavement 200 miles.
b. My sister-in-law's van - Ford Club Wagon -
could probably rent the better tow trailer,
since the van is stronger - BUT I don't know
how strong it is, it's OLD.
2. Borrow a friend's van. I have a friendly community,
might be able to borrow an SUV or van with hitch,
in exchange for loaner of my car.
Both 1 and 2 are me driving a truck with a 4000 lb car in tow.
(have done similar, but am no truck driver, and eyes aren't
best for job, can you spell Toxoplasmosis?)
PS ironically, I don't need a ramp to unload at home,
as I have a retaining wall, I could just back up to that,
and roll onto my neighbor's driveway :-)
Thanks.
Seth
PS with this summer weather, I run now to finish the SnowblowEV.
Last week, I was sick enough to stay home and run power
to the driveway :-) Pictures to come.
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She flew today Boys and Girls.With .012 average reaction times the CE ran 9
passes with et of 11.976 to 12.001 to run through the best bracket racing class
on the West Coast The SPEEDWORLD Team(as proven at the et finals of western
states last year.)I am not a writer as you all know but I am sure the cars
performance and run by run details will be written up in the NHRA national
dragster weekly publication.Oh one more thing the $1000. are going to the nhra
pro
street truck I am building.To date this year the Current Eliminator has earned
a
new set of hawker batteries already.$1420.00
So saddlem up bringem to your local NHRA
track get in on the NHRA Summit Series its RACING for all ets to 25 seconds for
street cars.$$$ and fun to be had. Dennis
Berube
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:59:52 -0800, you wrote:
>mike golub wrote:
>> I forgot to ask, but the Sam's Club batteries have 12 month
>> warranty. Is it possible to use them up within 12 months?
>
>You could abuse them to death in 12 months. But if used normally, they
>should last a few years.
>
>Having used Sam's Club (Exide) golf cart batteries myself, I will say
>that they are not as good as Trojans or USB; but they were cheaper and
>easier to get. If you're after the maximum in range and life, get
>Trojans or USBs. If you want 'em cheap and now, use the Exides.
>--
Anybody got experience with Crown Batterys?
Matt Milliron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1981 Jet Electrica, Ford Escort
My daughter named it, "Pikachu".
It's yellow and black, electric and
contains Japanese parts, so I went with it.
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My Sparrow currently uses about 195 Wh/mile.
I have 137 BB600 NiCd cell in it, for a nominal pack voltage of 164v,
and a peak charging voltage of 205v.
Since it has a DCP Raptor controller, I make sure the voltage is
below 195 before turning the car on. (Generally it drops down to
that within seconds of turning off the charger.)
My problem is that I need a little more range. With the current pack
and power usage, I have about a 33 mile range to 100% DOD. (without
using the heater or wipers!) My commute is 32 miles one way, and I
will likely need the heater and/or wipers.
I can add another 30 cells (36V) to the bird, and only make it medium
difficult to add water to the cells. (and a royal pain wedging the
charger in a new location.) This should give me another 20% range,
or about 6 miles more. Enough that I would feel ok to drive to work.
The problem is what to do with this extra power.
Adding them in series to the current pack goes over the controller voltage.
Making the pack 2 parallel strings gives me a 100V pack, which is too
low for the controller.
The only other thing I've been able to think of would be to get a 36V
to 164v DC-DC that can handle about 1800-2000 Watts.
AARRGGHH!!! So close and yet so far!
--
John G. Lussmyer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dragons soar and Tigers prowl while I dream....
http://www.CasaDelGato.com
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All I could tell from your post is that you are extremely excited and
overwhelmed. You must have done fantastic. Congratulations Dennis!
Roderick Wilde
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: Re:CURRENT ELIMINATOR DRAGSTER NEWS!!!
She flew today Boys and Girls.With .012 average reaction times the CE ran
9
passes with et of 11.976 to 12.001 to run through the best bracket racing
class
on the West Coast The SPEEDWORLD Team(as proven at the et finals of
western
states last year.)I am not a writer as you all know but I am sure the cars
performance and run by run details will be written up in the NHRA national
dragster weekly publication.Oh one more thing the $1000. are going to the
nhra pro
street truck I am building.To date this year the Current Eliminator has
earned a
new set of hawker batteries already.$1420.00
So saddlem up bringem to your local NHRA
track get in on the NHRA Summit Series its RACING for all ets to 25
seconds for
street cars.$$$ and fun to be had.
Dennis
Berube
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Hi Folks, I was just checking and that Vette is coming up at the rate of
fifteen votes per one of our electrics. That dude must have some serious
mojo prom queen friends to out do our EV List. He probably has a job at
Microsoft :-) We at least might be able to hold on to John for Car of the
Month. It is now time to get hold of your relatives and people you gave up
on over ten years ago as friends and get them to vote :-)
Roderick Wilde
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NEV Jeresey!
(I haven't decided in NEV Jersey is the name of a
future 501(c)(3)...or a LLC...so I registered both :-)
How do you like that idea...
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I'm hoping to build a high power DC drive system modelled after JW's WZ.
Well, it's fun to dream, right? We'll see how it goes.
-Mike
On 1/28/06, Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What kind of controller -- AC or DC? DC controllers are less picky. AC
> controllers can place restrictions on the length and type of wiring
> between motor and controller.
>
> Most of the concerns don't affect performance per se, but do affect
> safety, noise, and other incidental things.
>
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Hello to All,
The opening page at Dragtimes.com just changed. Now, in the upper left
corner there's new wordage referring to two new featured pages, one for
'Muscle Cars' and one for 'Electric Cars'! How cool is this?
See Ya.....John Wayland
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On Jan 28, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Seth Rothenberg wrote:
I mentioned here that I was considering a car
in Maryland, and asked advice how to get it to NJ.
Some people suggest I post details and might find help.
I want to point out that you really don't want to tow something heavier
than the vehicle your driving without trailer brakes. If you try you
will find that the vehicle in back is doing the driving - without
brakes.
Actually, check your state laws. You may find the legal limit of towing
without brakes in back is a lot less (like 40 or 50% of the tow
vehicles weight.) It would be real annoying to tow your vehicle in for
inspection and get a ticket on the spot.
Another minor point is that if you are flat towing a car you *cannot*
back-up!
Paul "neon" G.
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On Jan 28, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Seth Rothenberg wrote:
NEV Jeresey!
(I haven't decided in NEV Jersey is the name of a
future 501(c)(3)...or a LLC...so I registered both :-)
How do you like that idea...
I like it. Perhaps you should register the NEVjeresey name in both dot
org and dot com too :-)
Paul "neon" G. - on the west side
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John G. Lussmyer napisał(a):
AARRGGHH!!! So close and yet so far!
What about charging at work?
--
Jaroslaw "Jaros" Berezowski
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I have a fairly low cost, possible, solution. Use the extra batteries to
power and inverter and run the charger off the inverter while you're at
work. Inverters are cheap these days.
Effeciency will suck, but it might give you enough extra miles to be doable.
> My Sparrow currently uses about 195 Wh/mile.
> I have 137 BB600 NiCd cell in it, for a nominal pack voltage of 164v,
> and a peak charging voltage of 205v.
> Since it has a DCP Raptor controller, I make sure the voltage is
> below 195 before turning the car on. (Generally it drops down to
> that within seconds of turning off the charger.)
> My problem is that I need a little more range. With the current pack
> and power usage, I have about a 33 mile range to 100% DOD. (without
> using the heater or wipers!) My commute is 32 miles one way, and I
> will likely need the heater and/or wipers.
> I can add another 30 cells (36V) to the bird, and only make it medium
> difficult to add water to the cells. (and a royal pain wedging the
> charger in a new location.) This should give me another 20% range,
> or about 6 miles more. Enough that I would feel ok to drive to work.
>
> The problem is what to do with this extra power.
> Adding them in series to the current pack goes over the controller
> voltage.
> Making the pack 2 parallel strings gives me a 100V pack, which is too
> low for the controller.
> The only other thing I've been able to think of would be to get a 36V
> to 164v DC-DC that can handle about 1800-2000 Watts.
>
> AARRGGHH!!! So close and yet so far!
> --
> John G. Lussmyer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dragons soar and Tigers prowl while I
> dream.... http://www.CasaDelGato.com
>
>
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