EV Digest 5223
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) EVLN(Irelands emission free scooter)
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2) EVLN(Nordic Electric-Car Maker Goes Bankrupt)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) EVLN(Parallel Path Electromagnetic Motors, ?Over-Unity?)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) EVLN(Low-cost hybrid version of Honda Fit subcompact car)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) EVLN(Indian scientists develop light-weight batteries)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) EVLN(180 mph Carbon Fiber Electric Supercar to cost $125k)-Long
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) EVLN(Peugeot 307 diesel-electric hybrid)
by bruce parmenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: disc brake drag
by Electro Automotive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) 100A Controllers TSP100
by "Shawn Waggoner " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Need Idiot's Guidance to PFC20 & Wet Cell Batteries
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: Off-the-shelf multiple battery voltage display sought
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Horsepower / Torque
by "Pestka, Dennis J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) RE: Off-the-shelf multiple battery voltage display sought
by "Hacker Joel-QA6240" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) RE: Off-the-shelf multiple battery voltage display sought
by Mark Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: How simply can battery voltage monitors be made?
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Irelands emission free scooter) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.dublinpeople.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=838&Itemid=38&id=838&Itemid=38 A first for the world Irelands efforts to achieve the high targets set in the Kyoto agreement may get a boost with the launch of the worlds first practical 100 per cent emission free scooter to the Irish market.Never before seen in Ireland, the Vectrix maxi scooter is a two-wheeled electric vehicle that offers high performance with all the power of a petrol engine bike yet none of the emissions. All of this is achieved at a fraction of the running costs of existing scooters. Ruth Lemass, organiser of the Irish Motorbike & Scooter Show, said: This is a truly unique vehicle and we are thrilled to bring it to the Irish public for the first time ever at the show. Many people are looking for an economical and environmentally friendly way to tackle the present traffic congestion in our towns and cities. This Scooter might just be the answer The compact engine is another unique feature of the scooter. Developed by an international team of engineers the motor contains just ten moving parts, requires no oil or filters and is effectively maintenance-free. It also has a reverse feature, which can be very helpful when parking in tight areas. Under the seat, instead of a fuel filler-cap theres a three-pin plug. Simply put it in a wall socket and the charger will replenish the scooters battery in just two hours. The battery has an estimated life of 80,000 kilometres and each charge gives a range of 110 Kilometres. In a recent test a Vectrix managed four hours of continuous urban running before requiring a recharge. Robert Nolan of Green Machines, exhibiting the scooter at the show said, This scooter represents the way forward. Not only is it cheap to run, maintenance-free and produces no harmful emissions it also provides a practical solution for commuters who wish to avoid traffic congestion and reduce pollution in our cities and towns. I am sure that it will be very popular with visitors to the show of all ages. The Irish Motorbike & Scooter Show takes palce this weekend in the RDS from March 3 to 5. - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Nordic Electric-Car Maker Goes Bankrupt) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.latimes.com/business/investing/wire/sns-ap-norway-think-nordic%2C1%2C5304358.story?coll=sns-ap-investing-headlines Nordic Electric-Car Maker Goes Bankrupt By Associated Press 9:34 AM PST,February 28 2006 OSLO, Norway -- Think Nordic AS, the electric-car maker once owned by Ford, was declared bankrupt Tuesday after failing to meet wage and other payment obligations. Think Nordic, based in Aurskog, northeast of Oslo, is now expected to go into liquidation. "This is a sad day," Think Nordic CEO Christopher Neal told The Associated Press. "I hope and believe in a future for the electric car." Neal said the company had no immediate prospects for a new project, under Think or any other name, but he hoped investors would be drawn by the expertise built up by Think's staff. The company had been owned by Ford Motor Co. until late 2002, when Ford lost faith in battery-powered cars as a way of reducing pollution. Under Ford, hundreds of the tiny, rounded, two-seat Think cars had been imported to the United States for a three-year test. About 300 were returned to Norway in 2004. Ford agreed to sell the unit in late 2002 for an undisclosed sum to Swiss company Kamkorp Microelectronics, which took over in January 2003. Despite efforts to develop new models and an 11 million kroner ($1.6 million) grant from the Norwegian Research Council in May, Think Nordic suffered chronic economic problems and was never able to resume full production. About 1,000 of the cars were made. The bankruptcy proceedings were opened after employees filed with the court for unpaid wages in January, followed by an unsuccessful round of debt negotiations that made bankruptcy virtually unavoidable. On the Net: http://www.think.no - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Parallel Path Electromagnetic Motors, ?Over-Unity?) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/2/emw349465.htm Parallel Path Electromagnetic Motors -- A Revolution in Motion? Joe Flynn from Flynn Research is working on a new technology called "Parallel Path" with Boeing Phantom Works. The technology claims to be able to increase magnet motor efficiency substantially, even over the 100% barrier. They have received a US Patent. OSEN (PRWEB) February 21, 2006 -- Joe Flynn from Flynn Research is working on a new technology called "Parallel Path" with Boeing Phantom Works. The technology claims to be able to increase magnet motor efficiency substantially, even over the 100% barrier. They have received a US Patent. At Flynn Research, Parallel Path electromagnetism is explained as a method of controlling and directing magnetic flux within the core of a motor to provide an exponentially greater motive force than conventional motors. From their technical brief about the technology, Parallel Path could very well usher in a new age of powerful and highly-efficient electric motors. The venerable electric motor operates on well-understood principles. A stator contains a coil that when energized with alternating current, generates a magnetic force which in turn acts on a rotor to produce motive force. Electric motors can turn the blades of a desk fan, the wheels of an electric or hybrid car, or the even the propeller of a massive cruise ship. Motors come in widely different sizes, though they share one characteristic--for each unit of electrical power consumed, contemporary motors generate a smaller unit of motive force. According to the laws of conservation, this makes sense. You should not be able to get more out of a system than you put into it and when someone claims to have invented something which does otherwise, skeptics are quick to challenge the validity of any claim that appears to violate conservation. According to the technical brief at the Flynn Research website, Parallel Path is a quantum leap in electromagnetic motor technology that requires no exotic materials or questionable science. A Parallel Path motor uses a pair of permanent magnets in addition to the familiar stator-coil-rotor arrangement of current motors. The magnets, along with an air gap, allow all of the magnetic flux within the core to be manipulated and directed--this ability to manipulate the magnetic flux in the core of a motor is what provides the exponential increase in efficiency with Parallel Path technology. Best of all, the Parallel Path technology can be used with linear as well as rotary electric motors. Independent replications of the Parallel Path technology appear to support Flynn Researchs claims. Testing and Finite Element Analysis show that the Parallel Path system indeed manages to not only increase the magnetic flux in the core by a factor of four over conventional electric motors, but manipulate the flux to act in the direction of motion, generating considerably more motive power than conventional motors. While this is still a new technology, motors built with Parallel Path technology could provide a much-needed boost to the electric vehicle industry by providing motors that generate a lot of motive power while using considerable less electrical power. What lends even more credibility to Parallel Path is that Boeing Phantom Works is apparently backing the technology and has recently presented with Flynn Research on the technology at the latest STAIF conference held Albuquerque, NM this Feb 2006. Flynn Research also has a patent that is certainly worth checking out its number is US Patent No. 6,246,561 Discussion link: http://forum.osen.org/Home/tabid/36/forumid/11/postid/165/view/topic/Default.aspx Full Article: http://www.opensourceenergy.org/txtlstvw.aspx?LstID=005f1c72-43ec-4bba-a318-90b4c7a3ef71 Full Details: http://forum.osen.org/Home/tabid/36/forumid/16/postid/174/view/topic/Default.aspx Contact: Matthew Carson Open Source Energy Network ( OSEN ) Canada Phone: 1.888.759.7057 ext 709 Website: http://www.opensourceenergy.org ### - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Low-cost hybrid version of Honda Fit subcompact car) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6041901.html Reuters ZDNet Tags: Asia Published on ZDNet News: February 22, 2006, 5:44 AM PT Honda Motor plans to sell a low-cost, hybrid version of its popular Fit subcompact car, according to a Japanese newspaper. Such a move would signal the car maker's long-term commitment to the fuel-sipping powertrain. Japan's third-biggest car maker aims to sell the Fit hybrid as early as next year for about $11,800, or $1,700 more than the gasoline-only version, likely making it the world's least expensive hybrid by far, leading Japanese business daily Nihon Keizai said Wednesday. The model could be launched in the business year starting April 2007 and would be sold globally, the newspaper said. A Honda representative denied that the company had made any decision on whether to hybridize the Fit, but added it had the technological wherewithal to mount its hybrid system, which twins an electric motor and a conventional engine to save fuel, on most of its vehicles. Chief Executive Takeo Fukui has long said the price premium for a hybrid over a gasoline-only car needs to fall below $1,700 for the powertrain to go mainstream. With hybrid systems still costing car makers--and customers--thousands of dollars, Fukui has said Honda had not made a strategic decision yet to produce the gasoline-electric vehicles in large volume, unlike rival Toyota Motor, which has aggressively promoted their proliferation. A decision to offer a hybrid version of the mass-volume Fit--Honda's best-selling model in Japan and due to debut soon in the United States--would suggest the car maker is a step closer to committing to the powertrain longer-term. Honda also sells hybrid versions of its two best-selling cars, the Accord and Civic, at a premium of around $2,500. Honda's hybrid-only Insight coupe was the first gasoline-electric car to be sold in the United States. Honda is developing a smaller motor and battery to reduce the hybrid's cost and weight, the Nihon Keizai said. It will twin the hybrid unit with a one-liter engine for the Fit, the paper added. Toyota also aims to halve the production and selling cost of a hybrid system. It currently sells many of its hybrid models at a premium of about $4,200. Honda, Toyota and Ford Motor are so far the world's sole mass-producers of hybrid passenger cars. Others like General Motors argue that hybrid systems are most suitable for large vehicles due to the added weight from the extra components. Compact cars are also generally fuel-efficient to begin with, and the extra cost of a hybrid car may be more difficult to justify, depending on how much can be saved at the pump. The newspaper said the Fit hybrid would have fuel economy comparable to that of the Honda Insight and Toyota Prius, which the auto makers advertise in Japan as getting around 82 miles per gallon to 84 miles per gallon. The most fuel-efficient gasoline-only Fit, with a 1.3-liter engine and continuous variable transmission, gets 56 miles per gallon. - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Indian scientists develop light-weight batteries) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=277359&ssid=27&sid=ENV Home > Sci-Tech > Space & Technology Indian scientists develop light-weight batteries New Delhi, Feb 22: Tired of lifting the heavy lead-acid batteries of your car? remedy is on the way. Scientists of two leading Indian labs have jointly developed light-weight car batteries by replacing the lead with plastic. These storage batteries for which a patent has been filed in the United States will be a boon to electric cars of the future, the developers claim. Currently used lead-acid car batteries -- that make use of metallic lead or lead alloys -- typically weigh about 20 kilograms. The new battery, delivering the same energy, will weigh only about 12 kg. "Its development is the result of materials scientists at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) in Bangalore joining hands with electrochemists at the Central Electrochemical Research Institute (CECRI) in Karaikudi," says AK Shukla who led the research team. Shukla is director of CECRI and also does research at IISc. The other team members are SK Martha and B Hariprakash of IISc, DC Trivedi of CECRI, and SA Gafoor of NED Energy Limited, a Hyderabad-based company that will commercialize the new battery. The scientists reduced the battery weight by using a special plastic and coating it with lead instead of fabricating the battery entirely using solid lead. The "acrylonitrile butadiene styrene" (ABS) polymer plastic used to make the battery "grids" is 75 per cent lighter than metallic lead, the scientists report. Similar lightweight lead-acid batteries have also been developed abroad but Shukla says they have a problem. Their grids are not protected from corrosion in the acid medium and so their life is cut short. In contrast, Shukla claims his battery grids are protected from corrosion by a layer of "polyaniline," that is electro-deposited on to the grids by using "a novel room-temperature process." Prototype 6-volt batteries delivering 3.5-ampere current developed using this technology have been tested in laboratory. The scientists say they "meet the service requirements for fast charge-discharge duty cycles." "The study is a major step forward in realizing a low-cost lead acid battery with high specific energy," Shukla told media persons adding that electric car makers are looking around for light weight batteries that are also cheap. The nickel-metal hydride batteries currently used in electric cars are very expensive. Plastic is cheap. Bureau Report - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(180 mph Carbon Fiber Electric Supercar to cost $125k)-Long [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.gizmag.com/go/5241/ 180 mph Carbon Fiber Electric Supercar to cost US$125,000 February 21, 2006 Electric cars have until now been relatively tame machines compared to their petroleum-engined supercar brethren from Bugatti, Koenigsegg and McLaren. The Venturi Fetish is the worlds fastest and most exclusive electric car, being assembled to order by hand in Monaco but it has a top speed of just 180 km/h hardly the sort of performance youd sell the kids for, and indeed, that may be necessary given that it comes with a price tag starting at 450,000 Euro (US$583,000). The stakes are about to be raised considerably though as Hybrid Technologies has joined with Los Angeles-based exotic sports car manufacturer Mullen motors to create a new benchmark for electric car performance. Mullens distinctive GT with its combination of style, handling and performance was recently named by Forbes magazine as the 7th fastest American production car, an honour shared with Saleen and Dodge Viper. The remarkable news is that the new electric sports car will not only be much faster than the Venturi Fetish, but will will look and perform identically to the current pet === http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2006/2/21/2940 February 21, 2006 @ 10:35AM - posted by Jonathan M. Gitlin An electric car for those who like life in the fast lane? Readers of this column will have cottoned on to the fact that global scientific opinion regards the use of fossil fuels as the main driving force behind climate change. Over hundreds of millions of years, organic matter gets taken into the bowels of the planet where it gets transformed into coal, gas and oil. Over the last couple of hundred years, we have then liberated that sequestered carbon and pumped it back into the atmosphere through power plants and the internal combustion engine. This has caused a huge increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration, which changes the absorption properties of the atmosphere, retaining more heat from the sun and causing weather patterns to change, ice caps to melt and people living at sea level to worry about their long term property values. The problem is, our way of life in the developed world depends rather heavily on this liberation of sequestered carbon. More so than anywhere else, the US depends heavily on the motorcar to move people and goods from place to place. Electric cars have been promised for a while, but by and large they're slow, ungainly things that have little to offer anyone but the most die-hard environmentalist. Slowly that is beginning to change. Last year, Venturi, France's equivalent to Lotus and now in its third or fourth incarnation, revealed the Fetish, a carbon fibre electric sportscar that offered very rapid acceleration but sadly not much top speed and an eye-raising 450,000 (US$583,000) price tag. But they aren't the only company trying to get speedfreaks to ditch their V8s and move to battery power. In Japan, the eight-wheeled Eliica offers 237 mph and seating for four, but looks a long way from market. The US is here to save the day though. Mullen Motors, based out of LA, have been working on electric sportscars for some time now. I distinctly remember reading about them at least 6 or seven years back, with a rapid looking roadster that had a trailer saddled to the back, probably to carry the batteries. Now, in partnership with Hybrid Technologies, they have announced the debut of an electric-powered version of the Mullen GT, for which they claim a top speed of 180 mph, all for just US$125,000. While I'm not sure about the styling - the bonnet and lights look like they came from a Ferrari 575 and the side strakes from a Testarossa, if the product matches up with their claims they might just start tempting people out of their gas guzzlers. Of course, electric cars are not a panacea for the move against the carbon economy. That power still needs to be generated somewhere, so we'd need more nuclear power stations, with all the risks and rewards they bring with them. In other alternative energy news, President Bush is set to visit the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado tomorrow. It was reported that the Department of Energy were hurriedly trying to transfer $5 million dollars to the NREL in order to keep the lab open, after the budget crunch had caused funding cuts and layoffs. Better than nothing, I suppose, but it would be nice if the promises he keeps making about funding alternative energy sources ever made it past the talking. Readers of this column will have cottoned on to the fact that global scientific opinion regards the use of fossil fuels as the main driving force behind climate change. Over hundreds of millions of years, organic matter gets taken into the bowels of the planet where it gets transformed into coal, gas and oil. Over the last couple of hundred years, we have then liberated that sequestered carbon and pumped it back into the atmosphere through power plants and the internal combustion engine. This has caused a huge increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration, which changes the absorption properties of the atmosphere, retaining more heat from the sun and causing weather patterns to change, ice caps to melt and people living at sea level to worry about their long term property values. The problem is, our way of life in the developed world depends rather heavily on this liberation of sequestered carbon. More so than anywhere else, the US depends heavily on the motorcar to move people and goods from place to place. Electric cars have been promised for a while, but by and large they're slow, ungainly things that have little to offer anyone but the most die-hard environmentalist. Slowly that is beginning to change. Last year, Venturi, France's equivalent to Lotus and now in its third or fourth incarnation, revealed the Fetish, a carbon fibre electric sportscar that offered very rapid acceleration but sadly not much top speed and an eye-raising 450,000 (US$583,000) price tag. But they aren't the only company trying to get speedfreaks to ditch their V8s and move to battery power. In Japan, the eight-wheeled Eliica offers 237 mph and seating for four, but looks a long way from market. The US is here to save the day though. Mullen Motors, based out of LA, have been working on electric sportscars for some time now. I distinctly remember reading about them at least 6 or seven years back, with a rapid looking roadster that had a trailer saddled to the back, probably to carry the batteries. Now, in partnership with Hybrid Technologies, they have announced the debut of an electric-powered version of the Mullen GT, for which they claim a top speed of 180 mph, all for just US$125,000. While I'm not sure about the styling - the bonnet and lights look like they came from a Ferrari 575 and the side strakes from a Testarossa, if the product matches up with their claims they might just start tempting people out of their gas guzzlers. Of course, electric cars are not a panacea for the move against the carbon economy. That power still needs to be generated somewhere, so we'd need more nuclear power stations, with all the risks and rewards they bring with them. In other alternative energy news, President Bush is set to visit the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado tomorrow. It was reported that the Department of Energy were hurriedly trying to transfer $5 million dollars to the NREL in order to keep the lab open, after the budget crunch had caused funding cuts and layoffs. Better than nothing, I suppose, but it would be nice if the promises he keeps making about funding alternative energy sources ever made it past the talking. - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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--- Begin Message ---EVLN(Peugeot 307 diesel-electric hybrid) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel} http://www.car.co.nz/newsevents.asp?articleid=10210 Peugeot 307 diesel-electric hybrid Rachel Bradbury A breakthrough in diesel-electric hybrid technology has heralded a new way of combating rising fuel prices and improving the environment. The prototype Peugeot 307 Hybrid is based on the five-door 1.6-litre 307 HDi diesel model already sold in New Zealand. It makes substantial advances in fuel economy and in reducing exhaust emissions, and is claimed to operate particularly well in crowded urban traffic conditions. While the production 307 HDi turbo diesel is one of the most economical cars sold in New Zealand, the 307 Hybrid HDi is 28 percent more thrifty in average fuel consumption tests. In urban and city driving conditions, where hybrid technology gains are most achieved, the Peugeot diesel-electric car is an astonishing 45 percent more economical than the 307 HDi. Average diesel consumption for the 307 Hybrid is 3.4 litres/100 km (83.1 miles per gallon), with 90 grams of CO2 emitted per kilometre. This is a record for lower medium or compact cars, the most popular segment in Europe. In the same test, the conventional 307 HDi averages 4.7 litres/100 km (60.1 miles per gallon) and emits 125 grams of CO2 per kilometre. The 307 Hybrid HDi returns an amazing 3.0 litres/100 km (94.2 miles per gallon) and a figure of 80 grams of CO2 per kilometre in the official urban cycle. By comparison, the production 307 HDi achieves 5.4 litres/100 km (52.3 miles per gallon) and 145 grams of CO2 per kilometre. Despite this, the 307 Hybrid still accelerates from a standstill to 100 km/h in 12.4 seconds the same as the 307 HDi. It is faster than the production 307 in mid-range, needing a mere 3.5 seconds to accelerate from 30 km/h to 60 km/h, compared to 5.8 seconds for the standard 307 HDi. Peugeot says the 307 diesel-electric hybrid is 25 percent more economical than a similar vehicle equipped with a petrol-electric hybrid, or as much as a litre per 100 kilometres in combined urban and motorway driving. The diesel-electric technology in the 307 comprises a four-cylinder, 1.6-litre HDi engine, a particulate filter system, the latest generation "stop and start" system, an electric motor, inverter, high voltage battery pack and dedicated control electronics. The car is also equipped with an electronically managed six-speed manual gearbox which Peugeot considers more appropriate than an automatic transmission. Kinetic energy is recovered during deceleration and braking. In the all-electric mode for urban and city driving up to 50 km/h, noise and emissions are eliminated. The car also has an extended ZEV mode in which electrical power is used by default, depending on the battery charge level. For motorway and rural open road driving, the electric motor can provide a 35 percent power boost for extra acceleration when needed. The HDi diesel motor in the Hybrid produces 66 kW of power at 4,000 rpm, and 215 Nm of torque at 1,750 rpm. In addition, the permanent magnet synchronous electric motor offers 16 kW of continuous power and 80 Nm of torque, and 23 kW of peak power and 130 Nm maximum torque. PSA Peugeot believes combining a parallel hybrid power train with an HDi diesel engine represents a big step forward in terms of improved fuel economy and lower emissions. The 307 diesel-petrol hybrid could be on the market within four years, although Peugeot says the model's future will be determined by affordability. At today's costings, the price gap between a hybrid HDi car and a comparable diesel only HDi model is still too wide. It would need to be halved to make a diesel hybrid accessible to most consumers. The PSA group is researching the four areas that generate most of the extra cost high-voltage batteries, electric motor/generator, inverter and the regenerative braking system. Peugeot is a world leader in common-rail HDi diesel engines and has pioneered electric vehicles. By combining these two power sources, the French company hopes to eventually offer hybrid motor vehicles. - Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter ' ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) ===== Undo Petroleum Everywhere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---I have a 1982 VW Rabbit conversion with Kelsey-Hayes front disc brakes. The drag cuts my range and heats the wheels to the touch. It doesn't have the anti-rattle springs that the repair book shows. What do I do? Are there spreader springs that can be added to cut the drag?Gordon Schaeffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]The Kelsey-Hayes brakes are the most desirable option on the Rabbits, as they have a larger "swept area". The anti-rattle springs aren't necessary, and wouldn't have anything to do with the brakes dragging. The problem is probably in the guide pins on which the caliper moves back and forth. There should be a plastic sleeve in the hole the guide pin goes through, and the pin itself should be perfectly smooth. When you reassemble these, be sure everything is clean, and apply a thin layer of high temperature silicon based grease to the pins before you screw them in.You might also check the rubber hoses that go from the body of the car to the calipers. These will fail by closing down inside, like an artery getting clogged. When you press the brake pedal, you apply enough pressure to force the hydraulic fluid through and open them up, but when you release, there is not enough pressure to force the fluid back through the constricted hose, so the caliper does not open completely and the brakes are left partially applied.Mike Brown Electro Automotive POB 1113 Felton CA 95018-1113 Telephone 831-429-1989 http://www.electroauto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electric Car Conversion Kits * Components * Books * Videos * Since 1979
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--- Begin Message ---http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7164339345 Hi everyone, we are overstocked on the TSP100 controllers and need to clear them out. They accept 24-36VDC and auto-sense between Hall Effect and 0-5K input. They are $85 plus shipping. They make great controllers for scooters, bikes and electric pocket bikes. Thanks! Shawn
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--- Begin Message ---That guy was me. I am out here on the EV list a couple times a day helping folks as best I can. As well as producing PFC chargers and BMS equipment. So sitting around waiting for the phone to ring.. all 3 of them is not what I spend most of my day doing. But I am within hearing distance of a Phone or cell phone 24/7. Oh yea... E-mail..... right here, is also a effective way to ask questions. You might actually check my E-mail.. and notice the return address. As far as I know all my old and new E-mail addresses are still active and valid. As I reacall my advise was to get some batteries that are worth your time. Flooded or not. Adjusting the timers and settings are rather straight forward. Adjust and program as per Roger's recomendations. They are worth reading and understanding. The chargers will follow any settings that you program them to. Flooded or NOT. The .5 amp after a hour is for small lead acid batteries, that are in good condition. Flooded or NOT. You will have a larger finishing current with a larger Amphour pack. Clearly your pack is largr than a 50 amphour AGM. Also as your pack ages or is in need of equalizing the finsishing voltage and amperage is going to be higher. With really tired old lead, you may Gas them to death before the voltage comes up to what should be a healthy level. Learning how to program a charger, and having really tired, used batteries is a great way to make a real mess. If you are just learning this, then it may be in your best interest to start with at least one known good battery, and learn how it charges. Then apply that knowledge to a string of aging flooded batteries. Or ask me when I am not bounding out the door in foul weather for a appointment. Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian M. Sutin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EV List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: RE: Need Idiot's Guidance to PFC20 & Wet Cell Batteries > > I don't think I said that...to anyone...Ever. > > You might want to rethink What you are trying to do. > > And do your flooded lead acid home work. > > In fact I tell folks how to charge just about any battery with my Chargers. > > I am glad Roger helped you out... > > Please don't put words in my mouth that never came from them. > > > > Rich Rudman > > Manzanita Micro > > Interesting. I called the phone number for Manzanita Micro and recited > verbatum the following paragraph from the manual: > > You know that the control is set properly if the current drops to less > that .5 amps after an overnight charge. If the current is higher than > .5 amps, turn the voltage down to make it .5 amps. If it is less than > .5 amps, tweak the voltage up to get .5 amps after an additional hour > on charge. > > I then pointed out that this paragraph is not associated with any particular > type of battery. The person on the other end of the line said (paraphrasing > from memory): > > 1) That only applies to AGM batteries, which most of my customers are > using. > 2) I didn't write that; Joe Smalley did. > 3) The current should be more like 8 or 9 amps for old, tired Trojans. > 4) The roads are really icy, and I have to rush off to a doctor's > appointment right now. Sorry, goodbye. > > Several emails to the email address given at Manzanita Micro's web site > received no responses. You might consider checking if the website has the > correct email address. > > Brian > http://www.skewray.com/alfa > > > -- > Brian M. Sutin, Ph.D. Astronomical Optical Engineering and Software > Skewray Research/316 W Green St/Claremont CA 91711 USA/(909) 621-3122 >
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--- Begin Message ---Mark Freidberg wrote: > Would it be possible to run a fused wire pair from each battery and > connect them directly to the level control at an appropriate place? No, that isn't practical. The circuits in the graphic equalizer all share a common negative. The batteries are in series, so they do NOT share a common negative. A major challenge to measuring all the battery voltages on one device is the need to isolate each battery's signal. > Basically I had thought if I could just find a pre-owned graphic > equalizer and then open it up and remove the display and level > controls only, (or perhaps just the display) and mount these > around the EV dashboard somewhere, that might work. There are two big problems whenever you try to adapt a consumer electronic device to some other application. First, they won't supply a schematic; you have to trace it out yourself to figure out how it works. Second, it almost certainly uses a custom-programmed microcomputer which is nearly impossible to reprogram. To make this work, look for old equipment. It is less likely to use a microcomputer, and more likely to be built with larger thru-hole circuitry which is easier to trace out and modify. Or, you have to use the consumer gadget as a "black box." Never mind how it works, or trying to modify it; use it just as it is. In the case of a graphic equalizer, it expects audio inputs; so GIVE it audio inputs! Frequency determines the horizontal bar, and volume determines how many vertical bars light. -- Ring the bells that still can ring Forget the perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen -- Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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--- Begin Message ---Need some help determining if the transmission in my 1965 Datsun truck can handle the torque that I may subject it to. Maybe someone can help with a simple way to determine this. I have set up a spreadsheet to look at Horsepower and Torque based on different voltages/amperages/efficiencies. It gives me 173.73 HP based on a 144 volt setup @ 1000 Amps @ 90% efficiency. First, is this correct? It is also showing 9124 ft/lbs of Torque @ 100 RPM. Is this correct or am I "Way Out" in left field on this? If it is correct, how do I translate this into the torque I will see at my transmission? If there is a previous post on this, I apologize. Thanks; Dennis<<application/ms-tnef>>
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--- Begin Message ---Sorry...this probably will not work because Audio Graphic displays are not linear, they are logarithmic. You would have to design your own drive circuitry to Turn them back into a linear display and get away >From the decibel system. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myles Twete Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Off-the-shelf multiple battery voltage display sought Graphic equalizer for battery monitoring...I love it! I just recycled one of these...doh! Lee Hart suggested: > My graphic equalizer has 10 bands for each of the 2 stereo channels; > thus it can monitor 20 batteries. The fluorescent display has 10 > levels for each of the 20 bands. There is a "level" control for each > channel, so it can be calibrated right from the dash.
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--- Begin Message ---Actually I have a similiar plan only with a mobile computer that will be controlling most aspects of my vehicle. Since I will already have OBD information being fed (includes RPM's voltage on 12v side and other data) I am also running battery monitoring. This will have the effect of showing a graphical display of the battery levels and performing range calculations at the same time. I will be using a touch panel 8" TFT display that will serve as the main interface. This system will ultimately also control: Shift points for the automatic transmission Vehicle security & starting lock Environment (heater and ac) Interactive Voice recognition system Music and sound I already have the computer and some of the OBD interface components. The rest are some home brew circuits I will make that will interface with the USB ports. Ahh to have the funding to do all I would like to do!! Mark Ward St. Charles, MO 95 Saab 900SE "Saabrina" www.saabrina.blogspot.com ---- Myles Twete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graphic equalizer for battery monitoring...I love it! > I just recycled one of these...doh! > > Lee Hart suggested: > > My graphic equalizer has 10 bands for each of the 2 stereo channels; > > thus it can monitor 20 batteries. The fluorescent display has > > 10 levels > > for each of the 20 bands. There is a "level" control for each channel, > > so it can be calibrated right from the dash.
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--- Begin Message ---Mark Freidberg wrote: > Could I simply run a fused wire pair from each battery to a LED or > small flashlight bulb? ... What is the simplest circuit that would > work? There must be a hundred ways to display individual battery voltages. Dozens of ideas have been described on the EV list. They all work, to one extent or another. They differ mainly in cost, accuracy, and how hard they are to implement. So, your challenge is to define: 1. What is the maximum cost per battery? ($1 each? $100 each?) 2. How accurate does it have to be? (idiot light that comes on at 10-11v? 12.345v?) 3. How much time are you willing to spend building and installing it? (Hours? Months?) Here's a very simple indicator. It uses 3 parts per battery; a resistor, zener diode, and LED in series. They cost under $1 per battery, and should take less than 1 hour per battery to build and install. The LED is off below 10.5v; and gradually gets brighter as the voltage rises until it is at full brightness at 15v. 1k ohm red zener resistor LED diode (+12v)-----/\/\-----|>|-----|<|-----(-12v) ^ ^ longer lead__| |__banded end A red LED barely glows at about 1.5v at 1ma, and is brightly lit at 2.3v at 20ma. So for a 10.5v threshold, use a 10.5v - 1.5v = 9v zener; for example, a 1N5239 is a 9.1v zener diode. Pick the resistor to limit the maximum current to set the maximum brightness; for 20ma at 15v, R = V/I = (15v-10.5v-2.3v)/0.02a = 110 ohms (120 ohms is close enough and a standard value). You can't measure voltage with this circuit, but the human eye is very sensitive to brightness variations. Put all the LEDs side-by-side and you will find it very easy to tell which one is at the highest or lowest voltage. If you split the resistor in half (two 56-ohm 1/4-watt resistors), and put one in the positive wire and one in the negative wire, they will act as fuses. If two wires short, the resistor simply burns open. Pretty crude; but you can't get much simpler or cheaper! -- Ring the bells that still can ring Forget the perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen -- Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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