I agree the volt is a transitional vehicle, (between ice and EV) but doesn't that by definition mean its NOT an EV.
>From what I have read and heard, the volt it is a great vehicle and a >significant enhancement over the standard Prius, but it's just not an EV. Calling the Volt an EV just introduces confusion into a subject dominated by traditional ICE manufacturers and reporters that are to busy/lazy/indifferent to get it right. I feel the EV community should embrace plug-in hybrids as great transitional vehicles, but make the distinction between a hybrid and an EV. EVs are not inherently better, but they are different. John On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:45 PM, "SLPinfo.org" <[email protected]> wrote: > Damon, > > I concur wholeheartedly. If I had the money, I'd buy a Volt tomorrow. For > now my lead-sled S10 conversion will have to do. > > As much as I would like to have everyone driving 100% electric tomorrow, it > would not be practical. Despite lots of recent progress on many fronts we > lack.the charging, parts, and repair infrastructure, not to mention the OEM > capacity. Yes they burn carbon, but to my mind the Volt (and other plugin > hybrids) represent a good transitional step. They will teach hesitant ICE > drivers about the joys of EVs while allaying their fears about range. They > will educate ICE mechanics, salesman, and dealers about electric drive > systems, while the ICE components will calm their fears abour job security. > > Peter Flipsen Jr > On Mar 27, 2013 7:50 PM, "damon henry" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Bruce, >> Back in the days when you had an EV did you ever power it from a genset? >> Did it instantly become not electric once you did that? Although >> technically you are correct, the volt is a plugin hybrid, if I could have >> any EV I wanted right now, the volt is at the top of my list. It's got >> more EV range than any of the EV's I've built :) If I bought one I would >> definitely consider it an EV, and it would rarely use gasoline, but I would >> be happy to have that ability when I needed it. It makes a much better EV >> to drive from here to Hood River than the Red Beastie with a cobbled >> together genset and bad boy charger like Wayland used back in the day. >> I wouldn't go out of my way trying to teach people that the Volt is not an >> EV, after all it runs on electricity. It may be electricity collected from >> the sun or made by burning coal, or natural gas, or gasoline, or any of the >> other ways that electricity can be made... so even though it is a hybrid, >> for me it is enough of an EV that I will always consider it one. >> damon >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:09:52 -0700 >>> Subject: [EVDL] EV-cause promotional signage >> >>> He also mentioned that he did not know that the Volt was not an Electric >>> Car. We had a few sentences about that where I let him quote was the >>> Volt ads told him, and then I gently let him know: the Volt has an >>> engine, it burns gas when it thinks it is needed, an EV does not burn >>> gas, the Volt is a plug in hybrid (I did not get into the nitty-gritty >>> of what type of pih - he is not there, ... yet). >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130328/f2df924c/attachment.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130327/37703170/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
