So why can't I refer to a Volt as the hybrid it is; I say, when I am asked (Often) about GM-Volts. "It is a hybrid combining many of the advantages of a medium range electric Vehicle, with a gasoline - electric generator for enhanced range when needed."
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM, JOHN OCONNOR <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree the volt is a transitional vehicle, (between ice and EV) but > doesn't that by definition mean its NOT an EV. > > From what I have read and heard, the volt it is a great vehicle and a > significant enhancement over the standard Prius, but it's just not an EV. > > Calling the Volt an EV just introduces confusion into a subject dominated > by traditional ICE manufacturers and reporters that are to > busy/lazy/indifferent to get it right. > > I feel the EV community should embrace plug-in hybrids as great > transitional vehicles, but make the distinction between a hybrid and an EV. > EVs are not inherently better, but they are different. > > John > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:45 PM, "SLPinfo.org" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Damon, > > > > I concur wholeheartedly. If I had the money, I'd buy a Volt tomorrow. > For > > now my lead-sled S10 conversion will have to do. > > > > As much as I would like to have everyone driving 100% electric tomorrow, > it > > would not be practical. Despite lots of recent progress on many fronts > we > > lack.the charging, parts, and repair infrastructure, not to mention the > OEM > > capacity. Yes they burn carbon, but to my mind the Volt (and other > plugin > > hybrids) represent a good transitional step. They will teach hesitant > ICE > > drivers about the joys of EVs while allaying their fears about range. > They > > will educate ICE mechanics, salesman, and dealers about electric drive > > systems, while the ICE components will calm their fears abour job > security. > > > > Peter Flipsen Jr > > On Mar 27, 2013 7:50 PM, "damon henry" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hey Bruce, > >> Back in the days when you had an EV did you ever power it from a genset? > >> Did it instantly become not electric once you did that? Although > >> technically you are correct, the volt is a plugin hybrid, if I could > have > >> any EV I wanted right now, the volt is at the top of my list. It's got > >> more EV range than any of the EV's I've built :) If I bought one I > would > >> definitely consider it an EV, and it would rarely use gasoline, but I > would > >> be happy to have that ability when I needed it. It makes a much better > EV > >> to drive from here to Hood River than the Red Beastie with a cobbled > >> together genset and bad boy charger like Wayland used back in the day. > >> I wouldn't go out of my way trying to teach people that the Volt is not > an > >> EV, after all it runs on electricity. It may be electricity collected > from > >> the sun or made by burning coal, or natural gas, or gasoline, or any of > the > >> other ways that electricity can be made... so even though it is a > hybrid, > >> for me it is enough of an EV that I will always consider it one. > >> damon > >> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:09:52 -0700 > >>> Subject: [EVDL] EV-cause promotional signage > >> > >>> He also mentioned that he did not know that the Volt was not an > Electric > >>> Car. We had a few sentences about that where I let him quote was the > >>> Volt ads told him, and then I gently let him know: the Volt has an > >>> engine, it burns gas when it thinks it is needed, an EV does not burn > >>> gas, the Volt is a plug in hybrid (I did not get into the nitty-gritty > >>> of what type of pih - he is not there, ... yet). > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: < > >> > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130328/f2df924c/attachment.htm > >> _______________________________________________ > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130327/37703170/attachment.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Regards, * Dennis *(EVprofessor)* Miles* *(863)944-9913* (phone noon to midnight E.S.T.) * reply to [email protected]* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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