If they want to play by the letter of the law, then buy a little gas powered generator (less than $100) and put it in the seat, then re-register it as a hybrid. (i.e. no special tax for hybrids)
________________________________ From: David Nelson <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Washington State EV Tax applies to a Gizmo! Well I finally found the original bill at http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/2660.SL.pdf. Unfortunately it very broadly defines an electric vehicle subject to the $100 annual fee as "A vehicle that is designed to have the capability to drive at a speed of more than thirty-five miles per hour;". Notice that it doesn't have to be able to go over 35mph, only that it is designed to have the capability to go over 35mph. Well the original design of the Gizmo states 40mph as top speed. I have no problem paying the fee for a full sized vehicle but one which weighs less than 1000lbs shouldn't have such a high tax on it. Especially when vehicles many times that much don't pay nearly the same proportion in taxes. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:19 PM, damon henry <[email protected]> wrote: > I know we went round and round about this when it first popped up on the > list, and I still feel that a $100 flat tax for road going EV's is a > reasonable solution. It is simple to implement and seriously $100 annual is > not that much money. No red tape or hoops to jump through, just write your > check every year and you are on your way. What other alternatives are there, > base it on weight of vehicle, base it on value of vehicle, base it on miles > driven. All of those are much more complicated and to me not worth the > hassle, I mean how much less than $100 can it be with one of those > alternatives? > I do see your point about it being a motorcycle and perhaps the law is being > applied incorrectly in your case, but in general if a tax must be assessed I > like this idea best. I think between either the hassle of another system or > the expense that this system is as good as we are going to get. > Of course, neither of my EV's are currently registered with the state of > Washington as EV's as they have not been on the road since this new law was > passed and I always felt like heading down to the DMV and getting them > changed for no good reason was like taking a trip to the oral surgeon just > for the heck of it. Now that this law is in place and I am back on the road > I will need to get my title changed so I to can pay my extra $100 a year... > damon > >> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:37:41 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [EVDL] Washington State EV Tax applies to a Gizmo! >> >> Well, here you go folks. Even a vehicle licensed under the motorcycle >> license laws has a $100 tax because it is an EV! At the rate I'm >> driving this year I will put only about 3000 miles on it this year. >> That means I am paying three times as much in road tax as I am for the >> electricity to charge! This is for a 830lb vehicle. That also means I >> am paying twice as much in road tax for my Gizmo than I am for my >> Toyota Corolla! Talk about a disincentive for EVs in a state with an >> electric highway. >> >> Here is a copy-n-paste from the renewal website. >> =============================== >> It will cost $154.75 to renew your tabs. >> >> Fees >> Filing fee Goes to county in which fee is paid. $3.00 >> License fee For construction/maintenance projects. $30.00 >> Weight base fee Funds highway improvements, transit/other >> transportation needs. $10.00 >> License service fee Supports licensing services systems. $0.75 >> Replacement plate fee For street and highway purposes. $4.00 >> Plate reflectorization fee For street and highway projects. $2.00 >> State Parks Account donationSupports Washington State Parks $5.00 >> Electric vehicle fee For vehicles that use propulsion units solely >> powered by electricity. $100.00 >> Total $154.75 >> =============================== >> >> I will be reading the law to see if the DMV has misclassified my car. >> I certainly hope so but I'm not holding out much hope. >> >> -- >> David D. Nelson >> http://evalbum.com/1328 >> http://www.levforum.com >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130618/bfc5cbc7/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- David D. 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