Hi Bruce and All,
 
                                 It doesn't actually double the power, just the 
voltage as the amps are cut by 50% so the same total watts.  The extra diodes 
eat another volt but that is  made up by 2x's the voltage. A bigger heat sink, 
a piece of alum angle, etc works fine, for the bridge diodes is a good idea 
with heatsink compound between them.
 
                                 I've been doing a bunch of  scooter chairs  
and switch 12vdc chargers just like you say to 24vdc nom. Most al the ferro- 
resonant  ones, the kind with no circuit board and a big can capacitor keep 
their regulation when doubling voltage which is nice.
 
                                   Some RV Ac-DC 'converters use transformers 
with 2-4 output windings you can put in series to raise output voltage plus the 
diode switch trick.  Though each time you go up in voltage, the amps go down.   
 
                                 The circuit board ones mostly can be too 
removing the board and bypassing it but they will be higher voltage somewhat 
output causing them to charge harder, faster which is great if you have a fan 
on it, always a good idea on any charger, controller and make sure it shuts 
down  by timer or voltage limit relay, etc so not to overcharge and remember 
fuses or circuit breakers are not an option.
 
                                Be careful of Chinese, etc low quality imported 
chargers have these as many extension, other power cords .   So make sure yours 
are high temp by testing with a lighter.  If melts and burns fast, get another 
cord. 
 
                                                                                
  Jerry Dycus.
 
                                 
 

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 From: Bruce EVangel Parmenter <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Low cost EV parts,  Re:  Looking for some parts
  

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013, at 08:03 PM, jerry freedomev wrote:
...  
>                                           For low cost chargers older Golf 
> cart ones without circuit boards can be switched to 72vdc nom just by going 
> to a full wave bridge rectifier instead of the full wave.
> ...
-


I have done this before. I took a 12V automotive charger (an old
fashion, transformer-type with a center tapped secondary using two
diodes for full wave rectification), and changed it to a 24V full wave
bridge rectified output (I was charging two 12V group 24 deep-cycle
wet-cell batteries on an e-minibike). I changed how much power I was
demanding from the transformer, so it got hot. I threw a couple cheap
120VAC box fans on it to cool it, and it worked out. 

Jerry's idea is effectively doubling the power demanded from the
original design. You would need to see if you are also overheating the
transformer. And if so, you could stick a fan on it to keep it cool.

But the problem with a old fashion transformer type (dumb) charger is
that it is fast charging at the beginning, but tapers to a crawl toward
the end of the charge. You end up paying a 'charging time' cost for
going cheap.


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