Roland, Cor, and Bruce,

Thank you for the information.  Very helpful.  I'm waiting to hear from John 
(not sure if he is still on the list so I sent him an email).

As an aside it took me a year and a half of planning, reading, etc before doing 
my first conversion.  So it will take a while for me to research and digest 
this new information :-)

@Bruce
Basically the truck is my spare utility vehicle.  Plowing and short distance 
hauling and light towing.  As you mentioned 4WD is a must.  Range not so much 
(don't know the last time I took the truck for more than 20 miles round trip).  
Speed also not so much (can't remember the last time I took it over 50 mph).  
Mainly a low speed, around the town vehicle with occasional plowing and salting 
in the winter.  Maybe 30-50 trips/uses a year.

The current LiFePO4 pack I have is  ~30kWH.  On my current vehicle (current 
curb weight ~3500 lbs) I have easily gone 70miles on occasion with reserve Ah's 
to spare.  So ~doubling the weight and a proportional halving the range would 
be well within the use limits for this vehicle.

Hope that helps.

Thanks in advance,
Barry


On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> John's site was posted, and Roland and Cor gave their experiences.
> 
> But what I did not read in your inquiring post was exactly what
> capabilities do you want the converted truck to have:
> -what range at what speed on the road
> -what top speed will you need on the road
> -what range when plowing snow at slow speeds
> 
> By knowing what your EV needs are, you could determine if the pack
> voltage, motor and controller type you have would give you what you
> want.
> 
> http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f-150/1998/
> 1998 F150
> 
> http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/18940?month=1
> Monthly Weather Planner for Newtown, PA (cold,snow)
> 
> From what the members have posted and with no exact EV-needs stated,
> then I say yes, if you drop your EV components in the truck it will
> move. But my questions of will it satisfy your unstated EV needs will go
> unanswered, and you may have an e-truck that does not do what you want
> it to do.
> 
> If I were in your position, and I were to assume that you would not want
> to spend too much on this EV-component reuse project, I would suggest
> you price an appropriate used manual transmission, and compare that to
> the cost of modifying and buying what is needed to use your existing
> automatic transmission. If replacing your automatic transmission was the
> less costly of the two choices, you would gain a little more range by
> going with a manual transmission.
> 
> Since you said you would be using the e-truck for plowing/pushing snow,
> I will assume you would want to keep the 4x4 option, and the losses of
> lugging around the added weight when driving in 2x4 mode would be OK
> with you.
> 
> If you could elaborate more on answers to my (above) questions, others
> with more experience than I could weigh in with advice/comments.
> 
> 
> {brucedp.150m.com}
> 
> 
> -
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 09:40 AM, Barry wrote:
>> Short version
>> Is an F150 with 4 x4 and automatic transmission possible?
>> 
>> Long version
>> My current EV is a Saturn Vue, which I converted myself and have been
>> using as my daily car for almost five years.  Given the appearance of OEM
>> EV's I am planning on getting an OEM EV in the next two years.  This
>> means I will no longer have a need for my Vue.
>> 
>> I could try to sell the Vue but the resale value of DIY EV's does not
>> appear to be high.  Another option is I could try to sell off the parts
>> and use the Lithium batteries for my backup solar.  But again the market
>> for used EV parts is limited.
>> 
>> What I would like to do is re-task all of the EV components to my 1998
>> F150.  I put less that 2000 mile a year on this vehicle and primarily use
>> it for winter plowing and hauling stuff. 
>> 
>> Really long version
>> So I've looked over the EVDL archives, diyelectriccar.com, and evalbum
>> for similar conversions.  Trucks have been done.  Automatics less so. 
>> Don't see any similar four wheel drives.
>> 
>> Question:
>> 1.  Will my 9" net gain and 1K Zilla be sufficient?
>> 2.  Is it easier to swap the automatic with a manual or keep the
>> automatic and run a separate electric motor for any transmission pumps
>> needed?
>> 3.  My understanding is that the hubs are unlocked (2WD) when vacuum is
>> applied and locked (4WD) when the vacuum is interrupted.  Is keeping this
>> feature as simple as just having a vacuum pump for the 4WD?
>> 4.  Other than this truck I've never had an automatic transmission
>> vehicle.  Anything else I might be missing (transmission cooler pumps,
>> differential associated stuff, etc).
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Barry Oppenheim
>> Wrightstown, PA
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