John,

Thanks for the info.

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of John Lussmyer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:14 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Feasibility question (Truck, F150)

I've been traveling and didn't have access to email for a week.
I tried replying directly to barry - but it bounced back with "invalid
address".

So...

1) For my F-250 (base weight without batteries about 5000 lbs, plus 3000 lbs
of lead), NetGain recommended dual 9" motors.
    I'm also using a Z2K as I wanted to be able to handle enough motor
current for good acceleration. (which should be possible once I finish
converting to a much lighter Lithium pack.)

2) I switched to a manual, partly because my donor didn't have the automatic
anymore. (got the truck cheap because the owner lunched the automatic
transmission.)  I also didn't want to fiddle with external pumps or an
"idler" circuit.

3) Depends on your hubs.  Mine has automatic locking hubs, which just work.
(basically, if the front axles start turning, they lock.)

4) Not much.  I'm using a Miata electric power steering pump, and a good
electric vacuum pump.  Since the speedometer sensor is on the differential,
the speedometer works fine.  The factory cruise control still works as well,
since I kept the factory pedal setup, and just have it pulling on the Zilla
hall-effect pedal under the hood.

The truck pretty much drives like an automatic.  Put it in 3rd gear and go.
Good for up to 65mph.
I never got around to installing a clutch actuator - so I have a clutch, but
no way to disengage it.


On Tue Oct 08 10:33:55 PDT 2013 [email protected] said:
>You might want to check out John Lussmyer's F250,
>http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250
>
>________________________________
>From: Barry <[email protected]>
>To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:40 PM
>Subject: [EVDL] Feasibility question
>
>Short version
>Is an F150 with 4 x4 and automatic transmission possible?
>
>Long version
>My current EV is a Saturn Vue, which I converted myself and have been using
as my daily car for almost five years.  Given the appearance of OEM EV's I
am planning on getting an OEM EV in the next two years.  This means I will
no longer have a need for my Vue.
>
>I could try to sell the Vue but the resale value of DIY EV's does not
appear to be high.  Another option is I could try to sell off the parts and
use the Lithium batteries for my backup solar.  But again the market for
used EV parts is limited.
>
>What I would like to do is re-task all of the EV components to my 1998
F150.  I put less that 2000 mile a year on this vehicle and primarily use it
for winter plowing and hauling stuff.
>
>Really long version
>So I've looked over the EVDL archives, diyelectriccar.com, and evalbum for
similar conversions.  Trucks have been done.  Automatics less so.  Don't see
any similar four wheel drives.
>
>Question:
>1.  Will my 9" net gain and 1K Zilla be sufficient?
>2.  Is it easier to swap the automatic with a manual or keep the automatic
and run a separate electric motor for any transmission pumps needed?
>3.  My understanding is that the hubs are unlocked (2WD) when vacuum is
applied and locked (4WD) when the vacuum is interrupted.  Is keeping this
feature as simple as just having a vacuum pump for the 4WD?
>4.  Other than this truck I've never had an automatic transmission
vehicle.  Anything else I might be missing (transmission cooler pumps,
differential associated stuff, etc).
--

Bobcats and Cougars, oh my!  http://john.casadelgato.com/Pets
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