I may be wrong but I think Russ Sciville managed to get one of the 2 (or more) 
of these Ford motors he bought to work very well with his Lotus Elise 
conversion (more info here... http://www.evalbum.com/1454 ) and possibly also 
with his later kit car project.... www.vortex-
auto.com 

He goes by the moniker 'rustybkts' on the web and I suspect he would be the man 
to ask about the practicality of using these motors.  He does visit the list 
occasionally...

MW


On 4 Nov 2013, at 16:01, EVDL Administrator wrote:

> On 4 Nov 2013 at 7:08, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> 
>> My question is, what use would a HPEVS motor be without the matching
>> controller anyway?
> 
> You're lucky they'll even sell it to you, warranty or no.  Solectria would 
> sell motors and inverters only as a set.  They said that every inverter was 
> "factory tuned" to its motor.
> 
> AFAIK, this policy is, if not standard, pretty common with AC drives.  
> Metric Mind has the same policy for the MES-DEA and Brusa drives they offer. 
> On the inverter page, Victor states :  "Programmed for and work together 
> with AC motors produced by respective manufacturers, therefore sold only as 
> matching pairs."
> 
> A little historical tidbit here.  Back in the early-mid 1990s, Ford briefly 
> offered a Ranger pickup custom conversion done by a third party.  They 
> evidently had a stock of Ford-branded, Siemens-made spare motors - probably 
> more motors than Rangers.  (AFAIK, these are not the same as the motors used 
> in the much more widely sold Ranger EV from later in the 1990s.  Someone 
> please correct me if that's wrong.)
> 
> About 20 years on, these spare motors are STILL being offered, usually at 
> absurdly high prices - I've seen them as high as $5k, and a couple grand is 
> common - by surplus dealers.  You can see one listing here :
> 
> http://www.commoditiesrecoverycorp.com/electricmotors.htm
> 
> For years we had regular posts from newbies on this list, asking where they 
> could buy an inverter to drive this motor.  The answer was, and is,  "You 
> can't."  No such critter exists today, and probably none was ever available 
> to hobbyists.
> 
> My guess is that Ford scrapped whatever spare inverters they had for these 
> trucks.  Or maybe some Ford buyer, unfamiliar with what kind of spares the 
> small fleet of vehicles needed, just went overboard with ordering motors.  
> (Is anybody here who worked on this project and knows the real story on 
> where all these orphaned motors came from?)
> 
> I vaguely recall hearing that someone was trying to either build an inverter 
> for these or adapt an industrial controller to work with them, but I don't 
> know how that worked out.  As far as I'm concerned, with no tested inverter 
> available for them, these are just very pricey doorstops.
> 
> Anyway, to get to the point, I would say that HPEV's policy is actually 
> somewhat more hobbyist-friendly than the one in place with most EV drive 
> suppliers.
> 
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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