I don't think weight would make that much difference, especially at freeway speeds. Sure, there are cases, but we're talking about a generalized number. In stop & go city traffic it would make a difference, even with good regen, but they probably are not citing that extreme condition either.
I suspect they're flat out wrong. You can get 120 mile range from the Leaf, too - if you drive at a constant 50mph (or maybe a bit slower) on good flat pavement without fluctuating your speed, etc. Peri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin WINLOW Sent: 19 November, 2013 8:03 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Kia Soul EV goes global and aims for 120-miledrivingrange Here's one way:- Leaf curb weight 1500kg I3 " 1200kg ... especially when used around town. MW On 19 Nov 2013, at 00:27, Peri Hartman wrote: > Sounds cool! I wonder how they will get 120 miles range with 27kwh when the > Leaf has about 75 with a 24kwh battery. Better regen? Lower Cd? Maybe > they'll actually have something closer to a 75 mile range :) > > Peri > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of brucedp5 > Sent: 18 November, 2013 2:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Kia Soul EV goes global and aims for 120-mile > drivingrange > > > > Soul EVs might be able to use Tesla charging network > > http://www.autonews.com/article/20131111/OEM05/131119988/kia-aims-for-120-mi > le-driving-range-for-soul-ev#axzz2kNgVvOGF > Kia aims for 120-mile driving range for Soul EV > by Ryan Beene Twitter November 11, 2013 > > [image > http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CA/20131111/OEM05/13111998 > 8/AR/0/AR-131119988.jpg > Kia says the Soul EV can accelerate from 0 to 62 mph in less than 12 seconds > and has a top speed of around 90 mph. > ] > > LOS ANGELES -- Kia is targeting a 120-mile driving range on a single charge > for the electric version of its Soul subcompact arriving next year in the > United States. > > The Soul EV will be Kia's first electric vehicle sold outside South Korea. > For comparison, the Nissan Leaf EV has an EPA-certified driving range of 75 > miles. The Soul EV will have a 27 kilowatt-hour lithium ion polymer battery > pack powering an electric motor that sends 109 hp and 210 pounds-feet of > torque to its front wheels. Kia says the Soul EV's battery pack can be fully > recharged in five hours using a 240-volt outlet. > > Kia released some of the Soul EV's specifications today ... > Kia is betting on battery EVs to help it comply with toughening global > emissions standards. That's despite recent warnings from Kwon Moon-sik, > former president of r&d at Hyundai Motor Group, about the high cost and low > profitability of battery EVs. > > Kwon abruptly resigned amid a string of recent quality problems that have > prompted recalls of Hyundai and Kia vehicles around the globe, including the > United States, Hyundai Motor Group said today. > > Kia says the Soul EV can accelerate from 0 to 62 mph in less than 12 seconds > and has a top speed of around 90 mph. For pedestrian safety, the Soul EV > will emit an artificial engine sound at speeds of less than 12 mph and when > the car is in reverse. Other features distinguishing it from its > gasoline-powered counterpart will be special 16-inch alloy wheels designed > for aerodynamics, the company says, a unique instrument cluster and more > eco-friendly interior materials. > [C Crain Communications] > > > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=11157889 > Electric Kia goes global Nov 18, 2013 > [image > http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/201346/SCCZEN_1311SPLKiaSou > lEV_620x310.jpg > The electric Kia Soul (right) will be sold outside South Korea for the first > time next year > ] > > > > http://driving.ca/kia/soul/reviews/road-test/first-drive-2015-kia-soul-ev/ > First drive: 2015 Kia Soul EV 12 November 2013 > NAMYANG, South Korea - Kia's first mass-produced electric vehicle was the > Ray, an odd looking duck that bears more than a passing resemblance to the > Nissan Cube ... > > > > http://www.autonet.ca/en/2013/11/11/coming-for-2014---a-kia-soul-ev > Coming for 2014 - a Kia Soul EV November 11, 2013 > Electric vehicles (EVs) may not be for everyone, but they are great for > lowering manufacturers' fleet averages for both emissions and fuel > consumption ... > > > > http://www.autoevolution.com/news/kia-shares-first-us-market-soul-ev-details > -70770.html > Kia Shares First US-market Soul EV Details 11th November 2013 > Wearing the same boxy design as the second-generation Kia Soul, the electric > vehicle will feature an electric motor that's powered by a 27 kWh > lithium-ion ... > > > > http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/kia/soul/first-drives/kia-soul-ev-first- > drive-review > Kia Soul EV first drive review 11th November 2013 > Kia's new Soul is Kia's first global electric vehicle, following the Ray EV, > which has been silently cruising around Korea for three years. This latest > Soul has ... > > > > http://www.torquenews.com/108/kia-jumps-electric-vehicle-bandwagon-soul-ev > > Kia Jumps Too Quickly on EV Bandwagon with Soul EV > November 11, 2013 ... charge to be at least eight hours in ideal > temperatures ... up to five hours ... using a 240v outlet ... or 25 minutes > on 'fast' charge with 100 kW output ... might be able to take advantage of > the extended Tesla charging network ... > > > > > For all EVLN posts use: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlSe > rvlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=evln&sort=date > > Here are today's archive-only EV posts: > > EVLN: Caterham to launch two electric-motorcycles in 2014 > EVLN: $549 ClipperCreek LCS-25 4.8kW home EVSE > ECOtality Replacement > EVLN: Consumers don't know the EV incentives available, + AutoT Survey > EVLN: Mitsubishi cuts Japanese EV price by up to US$9,100 > EVLN: AZ's Tesla prohibition, State law supports AZ ADA monopoly > + > EVLN: Del. 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