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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:49:43 +0100
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEVS , SAAB new EV
>
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>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:02:27 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEVS , SAAB new EV
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2013 at 14:56, Hoegberg wrote:
>>
>>> Electric Vehicle Sweden AB has started production of the Saab 9-3 Aero
>>> Sedan with a petrol engine.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm missing something here, but it's hard for me to see that the
>> world really needs another ICEV - especially one based on a 10+ year old
>> design.
>
> - Well, what would you do? :-)
> And as you know, GM more or less killed the new ones..!
> http://www.saabsunited.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Saab9-5SC_skrot.jpg
> But.. I think we will see a lot of interesting things from the nwe upstart 
> company SAAB in the years to come,
>
>>
>>> Our electric car will be launched next year ...
>>
>> I've heard that many times before. I hope you'll forgive me if I don't hold
>> my breath.
>
> Hehe, True.
>   well, we see about that,
> but I beleve they will deliver.
>
> Probably not a "model S" in the startup.
> and probably not for the US-market for a while, my guess.
> ant probably not 200 000 cars in the first years to come.
>
> But I do beleve they have a market. And for me all decent and safe EV counts.
>
>
> /John


about 10+ base, 
is that a really problem? If so, In what way?
I also think the new 9-5 would have been great base for a bigger luxrcar in 
china, but also..it is(was?) bigger.
 

About the NEVS
It
 is not a 10+ year old chinese base we talk about. Even if other chinese mfg 
have evolved fast 
over the last years, I still think this is a way better concept to start 
with than most, it is a very nice car and probably *a lot* more modern and 
safer 
car than many "new" platforms in that market. Better rust protection and
 so on. As far as I know of, other cars in China almost never rech 12-20
 years in good condition, here it is very common, despite all the salt 
spray and so on.

Im actually looking forward to it, and really 
dont care a bit about what it is "based on", as it is based on a very 
good and safe car. :-)  It is the end result that counts. Right?

So ..we will see how it turns out. The SAABs have been Evs before, Even the Cab.

I wish them the very best for the future in China (and here). 


NEVS
 dont talk so much before things are ready. So Im exited about to soon 
see more details about some of the worlds highest performing LiFePO4 cells !

As
 with tesla they focus on green, some of them have also been involved in the 
production of 
green energy in China. In that project I beleve it was about 30 
bio-powerplants built, that pays good money to poor farmers for the bio waste 
as a fuel, the 
norm can really be close to 100 % dirty coal plants without filters at 
night-time when no one see the smoke...   

I think the SAAB "IC" will have 
customers to. 
To be able to do this EV project and develop new e-cars you also must earn 
money 
somewhere. AND also you must have some kind of decent volumes to be able to buy 
anything from many many very abused
subcontractors ever again.. I guess.  

To be able to buy battpacks / drives even from the very small Tesla motors you 
had to promisse 1000-volumes, minimum. I dont know it that is still true. But 
probably something like that. 

So SAAB will even make the cells now, if I understand it correct.

/John                                     
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