The 1970s Otis P-500 electric van carried an Eberspächer gasoline heater 
similar to the ones used in the VW Bus. 

--Glen

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> On Oct 27, 2014, at 23:36, Michael Ross via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There used to be a fuel heater option available in the 50's and 60's
> buses.  A source of burned down buses.  This is all very vague in memory.
> I worked on VW's in the 80's and never actually had one cross my path, but
> I feel like I can almost picture it in the engine bay.
> 
> Be careful.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Jan Steinman via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps this is a sacrilege on this list, but I'm planning to provide
>> cabin heat in my 1981 Electranagon with... diesel fuel!
>> 
>> I got hold of an old Webasto hydronic heater. You can find them used among
>> boat people, bulletin boards at marinas, etc. They sip a tiny bit of diesel
>> fuel, and turn it into fairly large quantities of hot water, which I plan
>> to run through my Vanagon's heater core.
>> 
>> Electricity is (as HT Odum would put it) a "high transformity fuel,"
>> meaning it is highly refined and contains a lot of embedded energy. Why
>> waste it heating up resistors? A 3kW electric heater running for an hour
>> uses up over ten percent of a typical EV battery, whereas one tank of
>> diesel will last me all winter.
>> 
>> Anyway, just a thought...
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>>> From: Al via EV <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> It's that time of year, time to get the heater installed in my EV.
>> 
>> :::: When money becomes the deciding factor in food marketing, some very
>> bad things can happen. I keep thinking about how during the famine in
>> Ireland, the country’s grain was sold in the higher English commodity
>> markets to pay rents to absentee landlords while the Irish people starved.
>> Now that’s what I call real price discovery. -- Gene Logsdon
>> :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::
>> 
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