The subject of the Potenza's not being manufactured comes up on the
www.Insightcentral.net every couple months and it seems that they are just in
short supply and it take a little while for the production to filter down to the
retailers. Tire rack usually has them.

Rush
Tucson AZ


> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via
EV
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:12 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed
>
> Those were also the tires for the gen 1 USA Prius, although I believe they
have
> stopped making them and I have had very good results with other LRR tires such
as
> Sumitomo HTR.
> Soon I will need to put new tires on my 2002 Prius again, so I will again have
to
> search and find a low cost LRR tire with decent reviews.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rush Dougherty via EV
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed
>
> The right LRR tires makes a big difference also. When I had to replace my year
> 2000 Honda Insight tires about 5 years ago, I went to my local Discount Tire
place
> and said I wanted the OEM tires, Bridgestone Potenza RE 92's. The sales man
came
> back with, 'We have another Low Rolling Resistance tire that is just as good
as the
> Potenza, and they are a little cheaper for 4 and have a better mileage rating,
60,000
> instead of 40,000. He said the magic word - LRR so I said sure put 'em on.
Well, about
> an hour later I drove out of the parking lot with the new tires and I knew
> immediately that I'd get much lower MPG. I drove around for about 15 minutes
and
> sure enough I was getting 50 mpg instead of my usual 60 mpg, I drove back and
said I
> don't want these, please change them out for the Potenza's. Salesman was very
nice
> and said, no problem, but we'll have to order them. That was why he pushed the
> other tires, the Potenza's were not in stock and it took 2 weeks to get them.
>
> So if you have an 1st Gen Honda Insight, use only Potenza RE 92 tires.
>
> Rush
> Tucson AZ
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via
> EV
> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:45 PM
> > To: Michael Ross; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed
> >
> > Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> > > If I want to think I am reducing energy consumption, I seek a lower
> > > average speed. Not much else helps to the same extent. Skinny tires,
> > > better regen efficiency, hidden wiper blades, lower overall
> height?...
> > > meh.
> >
> > I agree on regen, hidden wipers, and lower height. But tires really do
> make a
> big
> > difference.
> >
> > There is at least a 2:1 difference in the rolling resistance of
> otherwise
> similar tires.
> > This translates into about a 10-20% difference in range (more at low
> speeds
> where
> > tires are a big part of your losses; less at high speeds where wind
> resistance
> > dominates).
> >
> > The trouble is, it's hard to find data on rolling resistance. Your
> best bet is
> usually to
> > get OEM tires from some car that needs to have good gas mileage. (Note
> that
> the
> > tires sold in tire stores are NOT the same tires that car
> manufacturers get!)
> >
> > Tire pressure, wheel alignment, and dragging brakes also make a big
> difference.
> > Most tires get underinflated for a "cushy ride", or just because no
> one has
> checked
> > the pressure in months. Wheel alignment is also likely to be off. And
> *most*
> car's
> > brakes drag, with the pads constantly running against the calipers
> because
> there
> > aren't really any spring retractors.
> >
> > --
> > A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing
> left to
> add,
> > but when there is nothing left to take away.
> >          -- Antoine de Saint Exupery
> > --
> > Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm
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