Those were also the tires for the gen 1 USA Prius,
although I believe they have stopped making them and I have had
very good results with other LRR tires such as Sumitomo HTR.
Soon I will need to put new tires on my 2002 Prius again, so I will
again have to search and find a low cost LRR tire with decent reviews.

Regards,

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626


-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rush Dougherty
via EV
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 7:53 PM
To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

The right LRR tires makes a big difference also. When I had to replace
my year
2000 Honda Insight tires about 5 years ago, I went to my local Discount
Tire
place and said I wanted the OEM tires, Bridgestone Potenza RE 92's. The
sales
man came back with, 'We have another Low Rolling Resistance tire that is
just as
good as the Potenza, and they are a little cheaper for 4 and have a
better
mileage rating, 60,000 instead of 40,000. He said the magic word - LRR
so I said
sure put 'em on. Well, about an hour later I drove out of the parking
lot with
the new tires and I knew immediately that I'd get much lower MPG. I
drove around
for about 15 minutes and sure enough I was getting 50 mpg instead of my
usual 60
mpg, I drove back and said I don't want these, please change them out
for the
Potenza's. Salesman was very nice and said, no problem, but we'll have
to order
them. That was why he pushed the other tires, the Potenza's were not in
stock
and it took 2 weeks to get them.

So if you have an 1st Gen Honda Insight, use only Potenza RE 92 tires.

Rush
Tucson AZ


> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via
EV
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:45 PM
> To: Michael Ross; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed
>
> Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> > If I want to think I am reducing energy consumption, I seek a lower
> > average speed. Not much else helps to the same extent. Skinny tires,
> > better regen efficiency, hidden wiper blades, lower overall
height?...
> > meh.
>
> I agree on regen, hidden wipers, and lower height. But tires really do
make a
big
> difference.
>
> There is at least a 2:1 difference in the rolling resistance of
otherwise
similar tires.
> This translates into about a 10-20% difference in range (more at low
speeds
where
> tires are a big part of your losses; less at high speeds where wind
resistance
> dominates).
>
> The trouble is, it's hard to find data on rolling resistance. Your
best bet is
usually to
> get OEM tires from some car that needs to have good gas mileage. (Note
that
the
> tires sold in tire stores are NOT the same tires that car
manufacturers get!)
>
> Tire pressure, wheel alignment, and dragging brakes also make a big
difference.
> Most tires get underinflated for a "cushy ride", or just because no
one has
checked
> the pressure in months. Wheel alignment is also likely to be off. And
*most*
car's
> brakes drag, with the pads constantly running against the calipers
because
there
> aren't really any spring retractors.
>
> --
> A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing
left to
add,
> but when there is nothing left to take away.
>          -- Antoine de Saint Exupery
> --
> Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm
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