I think both sides are correct here.  Tesla has positive margin on each car 
(about 30%), but overall isn't making a profit.

http://ycharts.com/companies/TSLA/gross_profit_margin

Mike


On November 12, 2014 11:58:41 AM MST, Chris Tromley via EV <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>That's an important point.  Growth is spectacularly cash-hungry, and
>Tesla
>is growing at a pretty good clip.  For years.  Many young businesses
>would
>have folded long ago.  Tesla is now planning a how-many-billion-dollar
>gigafactory?
>
>These guys just don't know how to play by the rules.
>
>Chris
>On Nov 12, 2014 12:40 PM, "Ben Goren via EV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> > Tesla isn't profitable (yet).
>>
>> Not to go all "citation needed," on you, but do you have any details
>on
>> that? It's my understanding that they're bringing in more money than
>> they're spending, but that they still have startup debts to pay off.
>> They're also spending on capital to expand capacity. If that's the
>case,
>> "the man on the street" may well describe them as profitable even
>though an
>> accountant or banker might not. But that same lack of profit would
>> similarly apply to everybody with an outstanding mortgage balance....
>>
>> And, again, I don't have their financial figures at hand or even
>> necessarily know what I'd do with them if you gave them to me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> b&
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