Ø Large numbers of car owners here live in apartments
That’s not my point. The topic I was addressing was the statement that “FAST Charging Stations” will become as ubiquitous as Gas Stations in the long run. I disagree. Any apartment dweller that thinks an EV that they have to take to a “CHARGING STATION” every single day for an hour a day is delusional. Any apartment dweller with a 30 mile daily need that buys a car with a 200 mile range for quadruple the cost of a battery just so they can go to a public charging station and sit for an hour once a week is wasting their money. The solution for apartments is going to be the slow growth of outlets-where-they-park. No matter the obstacles, that is the only practical long term solution. Sure there will be some fast public charging for those people that get into extremis, but one can be darn sure that if it takes 20 minutes at a fast public station, then one may have to wait an hour or more for **one’s** turn. Either waiting in line or waiting for the guy in front to come back from the donut shop across the street. There are about 1,000,000 people in apartments or multi-unit dwellings. It is unsustainable to expect a growth of fast public charging stations that may cost $100,000 each to be a business when all they can sell is about $2 a day worth of electricity to only the folks who cannot charge at home. In my humble opinion… Bob, WB4APR *From:* Michael Ross [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:50 PM *To:* Robert Bruninga; Electric Vehicle Discussion List *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (Retractible Cords) Robert, Large numbers of car owners here live in apartments,and more and denser housing is being built in the city centers - no EV infrastructure is planned. Inadequate decks are planned. The urban area you live in makes a large difference. There is not broad stroke you can make about transportation options. Here in the Raleigh (Durham/Chapel Hill/Cary) "Triangle" with about a million people, not having a car means you can't really get anywhere except by cab or on foot. The bus system is abysmal, nothing else exists and the metro area is very spread out. An apartment dweller here has very few options other than to own or share a car. Bicycle culture is weak here and auto drivers are peevish. They have been talking about light rail for decades and appear no closer than ever. None of what you said applies here. I suspect the same is true form most cities in the 1/2 to 1 million population range. Maybe these don't count, but there are a lot of them. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Except for the fact that much of the population lives in Apartments > and high roise building and have neither option. Who cares? They can then usually walk or take the metro to work ride a bike or use an ICE or LNG or CNG, or hydrogen. An EV is NOT for everyone! The Census says about 33% do not live in single-family -detached houses, but they generally are in urban areas and so their driving is much less. Let's say half what the typical suburban drivers do. So now we are down to only 16% of the transportation pie. Lets sell EV's where they make sense and not burden EVERY EV with the issues of a few. > In California, many apartment dwellers with an assigned > parking spot can now install their own charging capability, > as long as they meet certain requirements, including accepting liability. That is being passed in Maryland too until we just elected a republican governor intent on eliminating all things green and renewable... Bob, WB4aPR _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama* Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, "The summer day." To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. *Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html>* A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141125/362f7011/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
