> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Also, range is significantly reduced in winter. They may claim a 100 mile 
> range, but 80 miles is more like it, and only 50 in winter. Nissan (like most 
> big companies) suffers from Not Invented Here syndrome, which means they 
> ignored EV history and experience and didn't provide battery heaters. (One of 
> my projects is to see if I can add them).
> 
Their range estimates are way off. I managed to get 81 miles once when my 2011 
leaf was a year old. I had to limit my top speed on limited access highways to 
50MPH. That was in June in the San Francisco Bay Area with the temperature in 
the mid 80sF. 

Today I will get about 65 miles. The temperature when I left this morning was 
45F. The car was preheated in my garage (67F) and I only used the climate 
control sparingly to keep the windows from fogging up.

My route today I will take me to a few miles past the very low battery warning 
when the display shuts off.  It will take less than 5 hours to recharge to 
100%. At 3.3KWH that is about 16.5KWH capacity. That is pretty far from the 
advertised 24KWH capacity. My Leaf is 41 months old with 37,000 miles. I lost 
one capacity bar at about 33,000 miles.

I'm not complaining about my car, just the misleading advertising. I did like 
the Honda EVPlus better. It did have 100 mile real world range which lasted 
without noticeable degradation for six years. Then they took it back. 

Ed
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