On 12 Feb 2015 at 12:50, Ben Goren via EV wrote:

> Once the big automakers start making electric versions of their pony
> cars that out-race the top-of-the-line gasoline models .. almost nobody
> who buys such a car is going to want anything other than the electric
> version. 

II think that intelligent, educated gearheads who will jump at EVs.  
However, EVs are missing a couple of things that other kinds of people want: 
noise and pollution.  There is a sizable population of people who, for want 
of a better analogy (forgive me), like to mark territory.  A clean vehicle 
won't do that.

The din of a barely muffled ICE is part of the thrill.

Of course some of that din can be simulated.  As we've seen with the recent 
revelations that ICEV manufacturers are adding electronic exhaust noise to 
their cars, it won't take much to design an EV with an Enterprise-style 
whoosh or a nice, gear-y, turbine-like whine.  (IIRC GM designed the latter 
into the EV1 deliberately.)

But the type of guys who like to "roll coal" - you are NEVER going to get 
them into EVs.  If they go to the track and lose to EVs, they'll say it's a 
fluke.  

Maybe once they die off, choking on their own fumes ... (kidding)


> [Fuel] prices don't need to be especially high in such circumstances to
> make gasoline undesirable. Just the unpredictability and uncertainty
> alone will make people want to avoid it.  

What I think would do it more than price is consistent and significant 
inconvenience.  

During the 1970s mideast oil embargo, it wasn't so much the rising prices 
that got to drivers as it was lousy availability. 

In some areas of the US, buying fuel was a lot like buying TP or beef in 
Russia.  Some stations had gasoline; many didn't.  Where your gas gauge was 
didn't much matter.  If you heard from a neighbor or relative (today it 
would be on the net) that a filling station had just gotten its allocation, 
you'd head over there to top off the tank, or buy your 8 or 10 gallon limit. 
You'd get there and find a line of cars stretching round the block.  In 
winter they'd be idling, wasting the scarce fuel they were trying to buy.

A cottage industry appeared, especially in university towns, with people who 
would - for a price - sit in your car for you in queue.  It was a perfect 
job for college students, who could study while they waited.  Of course it 
was mostly the "upper crust" VIPs who were willing to pay for that service.

For the rest, a fuel efficient vehicle was suddenly REALLY desirable.  Auto 
dealers had subcompacts sold, with hefty additional markup above sticker 
price, before they ever hit the lots.  Used land yachts gathered dust on 
those lots before selling for fire-sale prices.  (A friend of mine scored a 
once in a lifetime deal on a midsize car with a small V8, thanks to this 
scramble for small cars.)  

You can expect a similar demand for EVs if / when this happens again.

In today's high-energy, hurry-up society, no one can stand to wait for 
anything.  The rich folks will again be able to hire someone to get their 
fuel, but many others will be prime candidates for EVs.  That just might be 
a good thing.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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