Rolling coal is a lot less "cool" than it used to be. A lot of diesel
enthusiasts see it as waste, and don't really want the public hate (or
stiffer regulation). My diesel will do this in certain settings depending
on the rpm; I try to avoid it.

I think for many, if it's going to have a sound, it needs to sound good.
Quieter is better and allows you to hear your music.

I used the most quiet muffler I could fit on my jeep, but admittedly the
rumble of the 454 does sound nice. I do wish it was a little more quiet at
times out on the trail. My son's jeep has a 4cyl, and the way it sounds, I
wish it made no sound at all.

Many new cars are very very quiet and that is a desirable selling point.

Performance and convenience will win the day.

Brett
On Feb 12, 2015 10:22 PM, "EVDL Administrator via EV" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 12 Feb 2015 at 12:50, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
>
> > Once the big automakers start making electric versions of their pony
> > cars that out-race the top-of-the-line gasoline models .. almost nobody
> > who buys such a car is going to want anything other than the electric
> > version.
>
> II think that intelligent, educated gearheads who will jump at EVs.
> However, EVs are missing a couple of things that other kinds of people
> want:
> noise and pollution.  There is a sizable population of people who, for want
> of a better analogy (forgive me), like to mark territory.  A clean vehicle
> won't do that.
>
> The din of a barely muffled ICE is part of the thrill.
>
> Of course some of that din can be simulated.  As we've seen with the recent
> revelations that ICEV manufacturers are adding electronic exhaust noise to
> their cars, it won't take much to design an EV with an Enterprise-style
> whoosh or a nice, gear-y, turbine-like whine.  (IIRC GM designed the latter
> into the EV1 deliberately.)
>
> But the type of guys who like to "roll coal" - you are NEVER going to get
> them into EVs.  If they go to the track and lose to EVs, they'll say it's a
> fluke.
>
> Maybe once they die off, choking on their own fumes ... (kidding)
>
>
> > [Fuel] prices don't need to be especially high in such circumstances to
> > make gasoline undesirable. Just the unpredictability and uncertainty
> > alone will make people want to avoid it.
>
> What I think would do it more than price is consistent and significant
> inconvenience.
>
> During the 1970s mideast oil embargo, it wasn't so much the rising prices
> that got to drivers as it was lousy availability.
>
> In some areas of the US, buying fuel was a lot like buying TP or beef in
> Russia.  Some stations had gasoline; many didn't.  Where your gas gauge was
> didn't much matter.  If you heard from a neighbor or relative (today it
> would be on the net) that a filling station had just gotten its allocation,
> you'd head over there to top off the tank, or buy your 8 or 10 gallon
> limit.
> You'd get there and find a line of cars stretching round the block.  In
> winter they'd be idling, wasting the scarce fuel they were trying to buy.
>
> A cottage industry appeared, especially in university towns, with people
> who
> would - for a price - sit in your car for you in queue.  It was a perfect
> job for college students, who could study while they waited.  Of course it
> was mostly the "upper crust" VIPs who were willing to pay for that service.
>
> For the rest, a fuel efficient vehicle was suddenly REALLY desirable.  Auto
> dealers had subcompacts sold, with hefty additional markup above sticker
> price, before they ever hit the lots.  Used land yachts gathered dust on
> those lots before selling for fire-sale prices.  (A friend of mine scored a
> once in a lifetime deal on a midsize car with a small V8, thanks to this
> scramble for small cars.)
>
> You can expect a similar demand for EVs if / when this happens again.
>
> In today's high-energy, hurry-up society, no one can stand to wait for
> anything.  The rich folks will again be able to hire someone to get their
> fuel, but many others will be prime candidates for EVs.  That just might be
> a good thing.
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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