Nope, I agree with Bob. Not only do you have the expense of an unnecessarily large pack but you are carting around its enormous weight as well. The effect on the average day-to-day efficiency of the EV would be huge especially for a vehicle used mostly around town in stop-go traffic. Most families that can afford an EV could probably afford 2 - just like most EV owning families have one EV and one ICEV. Just make the ICEV a PHEV and use that for the long range trips... But hey, its a free(ish) country!
On 6 Mar 2015, at 17:56, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Isn't that a bit extreme? What about the many people who want to own only > one car and normally drive 20 miles a day but once a week or so go out of > town - to the mountains, to the beach, to the inlaws... They could rent but > might prefer the convenience of having their own vehicle ready to go. > > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Ben Goren" <b...@trumpetpower.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > <ev@lists.evdl.org>; "brucedp5" <bruce...@operamail.com> > Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, > lighter-weight > >> It is ludicrous for someone to be paying for a 200 mile battery when all >> she needs is 80. As with everything else, there needs to be a variety. >> The smart EV shopper buys the -smallest- battery that meets her daily >> need. Paying for a 200 mile battery is like commuting 10 miles a day and >> dropping off the kids in a hummer. >> >> Bob, WB4APR >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV >> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:59 AM >> To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, >> lighter-weight >> >> On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >>> [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could very well pave >> the way to cars that could travel more than 1,000 miles on a battery pack >> the same size as the ones in today's mid-priced electric cars. >> >> I'm sure we'll never see significant numbers of thousand-mile-range cars >> on the market. That's almost twelve hours at 85 MPH, and over eighteen >> hours at 55 MPH. >> >> What we'd see long before then would be cars with half as much battery. >> Never mind the savings in money; the space and weight could be put to >> better use. >> >> Or, if a battery of that much capacity winds up in a vehicle, the vehicle >> will be something like the Hummer: hugely oversized and inefficient, but >> still with a 500-mile range due to twice the batteries. >> >> It looks like a 200-mile range seems to be the point where "Joe Sixpack" >> stops having crippling amounts of range anxiety (whether justified or >> not), and we're transitioning to that being not untypical. Tesla's had >> that for a while and all the rumors are about the next vehicles from >> various major manufacturers meeting that spec. >> >> I'd expect most cars to eventually settle on a 250 - 350 mile range, no >> matter what happens to battery capacity. There might be some premium >> models with a 500+ mile range for bragging / non-stop cross-country >> touring (65 MPH * 8 hours = 520 miles), but never a 1000 mile range. >> >> b& >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: signature.asc >> Type: application/pgp-signature >> Size: 801 bytes >> Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail >> URL: >> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150306/7fb6c0 >> d0/attachment.pgp> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
