Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
A quality GC2 golf cart battery (Trojan, US Battery, etc.) is 220-240
amphours at the 20-hour rate, and costs $75-$150. They are good for 5-10
years, and 600-1200 discharges to 50% or so state of charge.

No, not BOTH.  One or the other.  5-10 years just sitting there doing
nothing but waiting for the grid to go out (4 hours a year around here)...

Correct. They are "used up" once they have accumulated 600-1200 cycles, *or* are 5-10 years old.

OR they barely will last 2 years in daily solar-off-grid use (and note,  you
are only getting 50% of their capacity just to last that long)...

That would be the case if you discharge them 50% or so every day. But 50% is an excessively deep discharge if you're going to use them every day.

For daily use, you would limit your depth of discharge to just 10% or so. Then they would still last for their calendary life; 5-10 years.

Note that life is a function of depth of discharge for *all* types of batteries. If you expect them to last, the shallower the discharge, the better. You'd also murder a lithium pack in a few years, if you deeply discharged it every day.

If you really have a situation that requires daily deep discharges, you probably have to use the old Edison nickel-iron cells. Aside from quality or abuse, they are the only type with an indefinite cycle life.
(There are 100-year-old Edison cells still in use).

Yes, may as well just throw $6k in the trash every few years since you never
use them.  The cost of the electricity for the 4 hours average outage  per
year is only about 80 cents. (1 kW for 4 hours).  Amazing how many people
will spend $6k for that 80 cent problem.

I see a pretty heavy thumb on the scale here, Bob. :-) $6k of golf cart batteries is about 60 of them; that's around 80 KWH of storage! Who on earth needs that much for a home.

You have to select the size and type of battery according to the application. Some will be best served with lead-acid, some nickel-iron, others lithium etc. Some applications aren't appropriate for batteries of any type.

If all you have to cover is 4 hours of outage per year, then dumb old lead-acids are going to be the cheapest by far. Like I said, they will die of old age before you wear them out.

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