The electronics only register cell electricity usage in the kWh field and gas
use in the other field.I agree though that any use of gas when measuring range
could be slightly incorrect as the Volt/Ampera REX is a generator only and
starts and stops regularly if driving slowly to ensure that it doesn't put any
gas generated power into the cells. The software engineers try extremely hard
to only generate energy for the road when the cells are considered empty but
are actually topped up and emptied in a continuous process.
If you check earlier posts you will note that many display electricity only use
and are often over 50 miles.
BTW, these cars were so ahead of their time and are still probably the only
PHEV's that are pure electric with gas mode only used when the cells are empty
or "Hold/Mountain" mode is selected.They have huge power off the line and will
happily reach and cruise at 100mph (not on a public road) using battery only.
It is later hybrids like the Outlander that seem to need gas mode to assist the
electric motor.
From: Paul Dove <[email protected]>
To: Russ Sciville <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2015, 12:41
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.
I think you all are mistaken. You are using gas. Maybe not much .3 of a gallon
like the guy said in the forum but then it doesn't take much gas to go 15
miles. Those cars go into gas mode if you go over 45 miles an hour I believe
Sent from my iPhone
On May 14, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Russ Sciville <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I never wished this to start an argument as we are all I hope avid EVers.
My post was simply to show that a well designed drive train is capable of high
mileages even when tugging around a heavy body and I totally agree with other
posts that removing weight and lowering the CD will inevitably reduce the need
for higher capacity battery packs.
The Volt/Ampera has a 16kWh pack but only allows around 10.4kWh to be used for
longevity and many are covering over 150,000 miles with little or no capacity
loss as I believe the loss is above the allowed amount.
As for proving the range, yes you need to drive steadily but it is an art many
EVers develop naturally and this forum link
https://speakev.com/threads/50-mile-club.304/page-11 will show that it is
exceeded regularly.
What has surprised me is that my Volt/Ampera exceeds the range efficiency of my
Lotus Elise EV which only weighs a tonne although is using an older drive train
which uses the original gearbox fixed in third..
From: paul dove via EV <[email protected]>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2015, 22:37
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.
No they don't. 30 to 35 miles on battery.
You would have to prove that, Of course the i-MiEV will go further if you drive
40 MPH.
I was speaking of normal driving.
From: Russ Sciville <[email protected]>
To: Paul Dove <[email protected]>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
<[email protected]>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.
Volt/Ampera's regularly do more than 50 miles on their 10.4kWh battery packs
and that includes dragging round a backup four cylinder engine in a steel
chassis.
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