If it's cheaper than renting an ICE car for long trips or even the same price, that could really work.
sean On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Bill Dennis via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > The recharge efficiency, I believe, is between only 15% - 20%. But I don't > see it as much of an issue, since most people would be using the aluminum > battery only as a range extender, not in daily use. The Phinergy test car > relies mostly on lithium cells for its primary mobility, employing the > Al-air battery to recharge the lithium cells during extended trips. > > When using the Phinergy cells, you need to stop and replace the electrolyte > every 200-to-300 miles. The aluminum itself lasts longer. Interesting, I > think the battery actually gains weight as you use it, since the > atmospheric > oxygen that combines with the aluminum stays within the cell until you pump > it out and exchange it for fresh electrolyte at the above-mentioned 200-300 > miles. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of EVDL > Administrator > via EV > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 10:40 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Aluminum-Air-Water Primary Battery Backup for LiIon > Pack > > Metal-air batteries seem to be pretty good for hearing aids. For EVs, I'm > not so sure. The main problem is that they're primary batteries - not > rechargeable. When they're discharged, you have to rebuild them. (Some > people call them metal fuel cells.) > > Alcan and Unique Mobility worked with Aluminum-Air batteries in the late > 1980s. They had a prototype system running in an Electrek EV (UM's > intriguing limited production purpose-built EV) but eventually concluded it > wasn't practical. > > In the 1990s, an Israeli company, Electric Fuel Corporation, developed Zn- > Air batteries with rebuildable zinc "cassettes." They collaborated with > the > German Post on a trial program of EVs using these batteries. After several > years, the Post concluded that it wasn't a viable system. Electric Fuel > seems to have pretty much abandoned Zn-Air battery research and now > concentrates on conventional battery chemistries for industrial, medical, > and military uses. > > http://www.efbpower.com/oem/ > > This isn't to say it's hopeless, just that there seem to be some > substantial > hurdles for metal-air batteries in EVs. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: > http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = > = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To > send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage > http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Sean Korb [email protected] http://www.spkorb.org '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150805/ce581821/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
