Back in the seventies, I experiment with hydrogen. Did not purchase hydrogen gas that comes in a pressure tank that I can get from the local welding supply company that also sells, oxygen, propane and machines that can produce these gasses.
To produce hydrogen, you use water and KOH (potassium hydroxide). Add this mixture into a standard electrolysis vessel that is use to make distill water. Store the hydrogen gas in a pressure tank. This same equipment is also use for making hydrogen gas for cutting torches. Install the hydrogen tank in a ICE vehicle using standard propane equipment that I was already running the engine on. Use a duel fuel carburetor that is design to run on alcohol and propane. The hydrogen ignites without any compression, so the engine had to be ignition retarded to about -2 degrees below top center. Use a high voltage ignition system by Pro Start the that reads the ignition resistance and adjust that voltage to that one cylinder. It will also continue to pulse the spark plug if it did not ignite the first time. This ignition method was use, because as the hydrogen explodes, it produces water which will foul the spark plug which the pulse ignition cleans. Instead of using a engine, this method can also be use in a remote cabin that has no commercial power source, or even in a EV with the standard battery pack. In either of this case, we add a fuel cell that produces the electricity. In a EV the standard battery pack is still use, when the EV stops and parks, The fuel cell charges the battery at his time. As the EV is started up, the fuel cell goes off line and the battery runs the EV. The REGEN produces the energy to make more hydrogen. The standard engine is not a good prime mover for this system. It was found that a turbine engine works better. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Goren via EV<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:53 AM Subject: [EVDL] OT: Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050 Off-topic because EVs aren't what they're switching to. http://phys.org/news/2015-10-toyota-aims-gasoline-cars.html<http://phys.org/news/2015-10-toyota-aims-gasoline-cars.html> Between VW and now Toyota, the big automakers are signaling that we're now officially at the end of the ICE era and that the transition to a post-ICE world has begun. Toyota's fool cells, of course, haven't a prayer. Who's going to want a car that you have to go somewhere (that doesn't actually exist today) to pay to fill up when all the other cars already charge at home for free? But riffing off the speculation in the other thread about retrofitting VW diesels with electric drivetrains...would I be correct in thinking that such a retrofit would be a lot easier with a fool cell? You've already got the electric motor for propulsion; rip out the H2 tank and the fool cell itself and fill that space with batteries and you've got a real EV. b& -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151016/979c73ac/attachment.pgp<http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151016/979c73ac/attachment.pgp>> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub<http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org<http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/<http://evdl.org/evln/> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA>) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151016/5665d769/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)