On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Roland <[email protected]> wrote:

> Install the hydrogen tank in a ICE vehicle using standard propane equipment 
> that I was already running the engine on.

We're obviously veering sharply offtopic, now. Some years back I looked into 
doing pretty much that -- running H2 in, in this case, an aircooled '68 VW 
Westfalia Campmobile in the stock engine with a modified fuel intake system, 
similar to a propane conversion. I seem to remember that there was somebody in 
Tucson that had done it with a pickup truck of some sort. I'd use electricity 
from rooftop solar panels to analyze water and collect the hydrogen.

The numbers just didn't add up. The volumetric density of H2 at sane pressures 
is abysmal and the embrittlement of the engine from constant exposure to H2 was 
going to shorten the lift of the engine enough that it didn't make 
environmental sense. And all that's before getting into the question of putting 
in an hydrogen storage tank plus the collection and compression facilities and 
how to get from storage tank to the vehicle...in the middle of suburbia...

...compare that with even a lead acid EV conversion and the difference is quite 
stark. Comparable driving range, potentially much superior driving performance, 
much better inherent safety, and _far_ easier recharging. And the entire 
system's energy efficiency is so much better with electric rather than all the 
waste of analyzing the hydrogen and compressing it and so on.

That was the final piece of the puzzle. Both methods went from solar panels on 
the house's roof to propelling the car. One method was very direct and simple 
and efficient; the other was an insane and wasteful Rube Goldberg kludge.

The fool cell is only marginally better than running H2 in an internal 
combustion engine (which most any engine built for gasoline will happily do 
with no more than modifications to the intake and operating parameters like 
timing). Even still, lead acid would have a fool cell beat...and, with modern 
battery chemistries? There's no comparison.

b&
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