You're telling me it doesn't?!?! On conversion projects I've done I always make sure that regen lights up the brake lights. It's just common sense. I have Think City cars and they don't enable the brake light on regen. This has caused people to attempt to give the car a free rectal exam with theirs. Luckily no accidents yet but it does surprise people when you begin rapidly decelerating with no brake lights.
I can't believe a big company like Nissan wouldn't have thought to do this. On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:29 AM, via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone found a way to do this on a Nissan Leaf? Even my converted > Electric Auto Union has this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "ev" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:03:53 AM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Fed-Regs allow regen to turn brake lights on > > > > http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/traffic/rules-of-the-road/article53707810.html > Road Rules: Electric car brake lights may work without braking > JANUARY 10, 2016 DOUG DAHL > > [image > http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/traffic/rules-of-the-road/d6i4bh/picture53707805/ALTERNATES/FREE_768/electric%20braking > Dashboard of an earlier model of the Honda Insight, a gas/electric hybrid. > Electric car brake lights may come on when the car is slowing, even when you > don’t press the brake pedal > ] > > Question: I’m seeing more electric cars on the road every day; I myself am > the proud owner of one. One of my favorite aspects of driving electric is > the regenerative braking, which allows me to slow down without using the > brake pedal. Sometimes I am concerned about drivers behind me not paying > enough attention to realize I’m slowing down without seeing brake lights. If > I’m hit from behind while using regenerative braking, can I be held > partially liable because I didn’t engage the brake lights? > > Answer: Until you mentioned it, I hadn’t thought about brake lights and > regenerative braking, which is one more indicator that I probably shouldn’t > be a legal adviser for the National Highway Transportation Safety > Administration. By the way, if you ever end up in a room full of traffic > safety people, they won’t refer to that organization by its full name or > even by saying each initial; they just cram all the initials together into > the made-up word, “Nitsa.” It’s much faster, and since NHTSA is connected > with just about anything that has to do with traffic safety, saying “Nitsa” > instead of the full name throughout a traffic safety professional’s career > saves 700 hours worth of unnecessary syllables. That’s just a guess; I don’t > have the data to back up that 700 hour claim. > > But back to the original question. The folks at NHTSA have given it some > thought, and buried in a chart in Title 49 of the Code of Federal > Regulations where they specify that stop lamps are required to come on when > the brake pedal is engaged, they add that stop lamps “may also be activated > by a device designed to retard the motion of the vehicle.” This gives > manufactures permission to turn the brake lights on during regenerative > braking. > > Here’s a bit of trivia to throw out the next time you want to be the life of > the party: Even though pretty much everyone uses the term “brake lights,” in > legal documents at the state, federal and international level, it’s “stop > lamps.” While I can’t find any requirement in a U.S. statute that requires > manufacturers to activate stop lamps during regenerative braking, there is > an international rule. The United Nations (who knew they were involved in > vehicle safety requirements?) has a work group that creates rules to > harmonize vehicle safety on a global level. Their code specifies > requirements for when stop lamps should illuminate based on deceleration in > meters per second when using regenerative braking. > > > Even though there isn’t a similar requirement in the U.S., in order for > vehicle manufacturers to compete globally, they have to comply with the UN’s > rule. If you drive an electric car that is sold internationally you most > likely have stop lamps that come on when you use regenerative braking and > reach the deceleration threshold set by the UN standards. Next time you’re > driving at night, check your rear-view mirror when the regenerative braking > comes on. You may be able to see your brake lights reflecting off nearby > surfaces. > > To finally answer your question, I’d say there is a 94 percent chance that > if you are involved in a crash, it will be a result of human error rather > than the failure of your brake lights to illuminate. At least that’s what > the data from NHTSA suggests. > > Road Rules is a regular column on road laws, safe driving habits and general > police practices. Doug Dahl is the Target Zero Manager for the Whatcom > County Traffic Safety Task Force. 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