Thanks for the words of encouragement Peri!

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Peri Hartman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Personally, I think you have an exciting idea.  I have no knowledge of the
> market but can imagine that people with big egos and big money will gladly
> pay exorbitant prices for one off items.
>

I NEVER would have imagined marketing to those people had I not met those
advisers.

>
> If you go the EV route, are you clear you have the ability to do it?


I have a artistic, mechanic, mechanical engineering, computer programming,
racing and machinist background and an attitude that "If someone has done
it before I can do it too!"


> Can you figure out a way to fit a large battery in an existing chassis and
> body?


As has been mentioned, it will have to be cut up into several smaller
battery packs and distributed throughout the vehicle. One of the big EV
conversion companies has done it before with this car model.


> How are you going to deal with instrumentation - fitting it into the dash
> in an elegant way, providing software and excellent graphics, UX, etc.?


All that is for a later version. Manufacturers roll out "concept cars" with
no engines and no interiors all the time. No reason I can't do the same. I
view the prototype as simply "One stage above vaporware". The only
requirement is that it be "An EV 'supercar'". In reality, the low bar is "A
car with an attractive body style that moves on its own using an electric
drivetrain." Anything past that simply delays initial progress. I will
learn a lot from simply having an EV that moves on its own power, even if
it has a minimalistic interior and minimal instrumentation. I just need a
seat, steering wheel, pedals, enough crude instrumentation to ensure I'm
not damaging anything and VERY dark tinted windows! Again, the prototype
goal is simply "an oversized gocart". I've never seen a gocart with power
anything or even an instrument panel.


> Are you prepared to gut practically everything in the car's existing
> infrastructure - hydraulic brake pump, hot water cabin heater, A/C belt
> drive compressor, power steering belt drive - and replace it with
> electrically driving components?
>

THAT is why I was wondering about buying a used Leaf. My assumption is that
it would come with all that stuff and I could simply "repurpose it" for my
car.  So a big part of my question was "Is there WAY more than $10k in
parts and time savings to be worth buying a Leaf?" Then the discussion got
sidetracked... That happens on pretty much every forum. Some people have
their own agendas or soap boxes and turn every response into answering the
question they want to answer instead of what was asked. That is why I have
simply been lurking on this forum for so long and rarely asking questions.
I simply don't have time for distractions with working a full time job  and
doing this car project on the side. I'm already WAY behind schedule.

I was HOPING some other "makers" at Makerspace would be interested in my
project and be willing to help. But they have already built several
electric bicycles and an electric gocart so they would rather build a
hovercraft than an EV. Not long ago they blew up the controller on the
gocart and I just saw someone haul it off about a week or two ago. No clue
if they had plans for it or were just clearing it out since space is a
valuable commodity there. Shame I wasn't a member (I didn't even  know they
existed) when they were doing that project. I could have learned a lot.

I actually talked to an EV conversion company in Austin when I started the
project. Their price put me off to the whole idea and, when I asked around
about the, I was told they do "old technology". Like others have said, my
goal was to use the latest and greatest that could actually be done is I
was going to pay to have someone else do it.

BTW, the other reason for going the "quick and dirty" DC route is that
seeing an EV move on its own MIGHT inspire makers to join in on the
project. They have apparently seen EV builds attempted before and all of
them were abandoned before anything was ever done. I get the impression
that most were underfunded. People simply don't realize how much time and
money an EV takes.

I don't want people feeling that I am dismissing their suggestions and
advice... I'm not. But the reality is that if the prototype has to "out
Tesla a Tesla", I am looking at 10 years of R&D before I can even show a
prototype. And, in 10 years the existing Tesla will pale in comparison to
what is available. I  will learn what to do and. just as importantly, what
NOT to do, faster with a crude prototype that with all the planning in the
world. I did pretty much everything wrong I could when I built the
prototype body. But I never would have learned that had I not said to
myself "Screw it... just build SOMETHING!"
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