I don't think that it is just a matter of odds. With autonomous cars there are many opportunities to change the safety equation.
Here are a few thoughts: - If a car sees that it will soon experience an accident, it could take partial evasive actions to minimize the impact thereby reducing the need for as much heavy materials. - Cars that contain less heavy materials need fewer batteries which makes them even lighter. - If cars all utilize lighter materials and fewer batteries then they will exert less force during an impact. - Cars may also be able to coordinate partial evasive actions further reducing high impact scenarios. A lot may be done by trading the weight of heavy safety materials and replacing them with spongy exteriors and intelligent automated responsiveness. -Brandon On 02/05/2016 04:17 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I don't think the desire for crash safety will go away. Just because > the odds decrease doesn't mean one doesn't want protection. I can go > on, but I think everyone knows what I mean. > > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Larry Gales via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle > Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: 05-Feb-16 1:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car. > >> In the fairly near future I wonder if crash worthiness will be that >> important. Self driving cars (or ones that are close to self >> driving) will >> mainly be achieved through sensors and electronics, neither of which >> should >> add much mass to the car. So you achieve safety, not through armor, but >> through avoiding accidents. >> >> Of course that requires that nearly all cars be self driving >> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Please look at the thickness of the doors, the specifications & >>> that the >>> car passed Dutch safety standards. This is a real vehicle which >>> though >>> coming in second to the Japanese they won on points for comfort & >>> space >>> inside their vehicle. If you look across the back seats you will >>> see a >>> roll cage and a strong carbon fiber bulkhead. Lawrence Rhodes URL >>> below >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challenge-visits-shanghai/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Peri Hartman <[email protected]> >>> To: Lawrence Rhodes <[email protected]>; >>> "[email protected]" < >>> [email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:14 AM >>> Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car. >>> >>> My statement and questions were more general. I was curious about >>> actually being able to build any 4 passenger (even 2 passenger) EV at >>> 1000 pounds, not particularly a solar one. As David pointed out, to >>> make a legally marketable EV it has to meet a lot of safety >>> requirements >>> and have at least some creature comforts, too. That provides, >>> indeed, a >>> challenge to build something so light. >>> >>> Peri >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: 31-Jan-16 1:30:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car. >>> >>> > Peri. You didn't read the article. Stella Lux used off the shelf >>> >specially encapsulated cells from Sunpower. Many of the >>> components are >>> >off the shelf. Since the vehicle has a small pack it is much cheaper >>> >to build. Much quicker to charge and it only takes 10 hours to charge >>> >on solar. 95% of the time a car is sitting. With solar panels it >>> can >>> >sit in the sun. The weight of the solar panels is negligible. >>> Lots of >>> >great things happen when you get light. 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