Hi Lawrence,
My interpretation of Bruce's comments were that he liked you to disclose what 
your relation with EVRUS is - are you employee, investor or not financially 
tied but just a happy user, that you are posting about them regularly and 
appear to have inside information?
This clarity will help other EV'ers judge better how to interpret your posts 
about EVRUS and may have impact on how you can post about that company,
as it is generally frowned upon if an employee or financially interested party 
generates promotional posts on this list unasked.
Most manufacturers/business owners I see on this list wait till they are asked 
about their product or may jump in when they have a very relevant solution for 
the question that someone posted on here, but they need to be modest about the 
amount of self-promotion, so that is what I saw in Bruce's post as a question 
to you to disclose that relation.

BTW, I am impressed that they can install fast chargers for such an affordable 
cost and I agree that for most cars (read: Leaf type batteries) a charging 
speed of about 25kW is sufficient. I drove to a 44kW Fast Charger last month to 
see how that worked and record the response from my Leaf's battery pack while 
charging and I arrived with less than 40% real SoC on LeafSpy, the Leaf 
indicated that I would barely make the trip back home if somehow it would not 
work but everything worked fine, LeafSpy showed 110 Amps into the pack and only 
a few minutes later the SoC had already risen to around 50% when the first 
cells started hitting the 4.115V limit that the Leaf BMS maintains and the 
current started throttling back. About 5 mins into the charging session the 
current was at 86A so this is 34kW,
two minutes later it was 75A so it was already below 30kW (max pack voltage 
395V) and it continued to drop until a half hour later the pack arrived above 
88% real SoC on LeafSpy and the charging session automatically terminated.
With a 25kW charger, the max charging current is limited to 25,000W / 395V = 
63A for a Leaf. This will make the initial part of the session about 1.7 times 
as long, but since the CHAdeMO charger that I saw starts being throttled by my 
Leaf's BMS pretty soon, I agree that the charging time will only be impacts by 
about 10 mins (depending how deep you discharged).
It is the nature of the beast and that is a simple matter of Physics so a 
different charging station cannot suddenly charge the Leaf in a much shorter 
time because it is not the charger but the Leaf battery and BMS protection that 
limits the charging rate and therefor determines the time.

Do let us know what kind of interest you have in EVRUS!

Regards,

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] EVRUS CHAdeMO network : Sac to near-San_Diego on I-5

Bruce thanks for your opinion but you are wrong.  Before EVRUS who scrounged 
together grants and an affordable 25kw charger there was no way to drive from 
Sacramento;/San Francisco/NorCAL on the Interstate 5 Freeway.  As far as 
charging time our chargers take 10 minutes longer than the 40kw units....BTW 
There is an NRG charger that will charge you to 100 percent in Fairfield at the 
Nissan Dealer.  Sweet unit but it cost half a million dollars...our units are 
under 30k installed. So you can sic the dog on me and not know or have an 
employee give the real scoop on new level three locations.  BTW nobody is 
getting rich on this. Grants have funded most everything being done.  Lately I 
have been driving the route from San Jose to Castaic.  My boss doesn't want me 
to drive directly to Lebec from Lost Hills so I've been going to Bakersfield 
Nissan.  I think this is a waste of time.  The next time I go I'm going to 
insist on driving directly from Lost Hills to Lebec to see if it can be done 
for real.  I did it the other way with a 38% remaining charge(Nissan Leaf 84 
mile version)...but up the Grapevine is a different story.  In my opinion the 
101 between Salinas and Santa Barbara is the next Chademo area of need. There 
is already a CCS route on 101. CCS needs a route down the central valley as 
none exists now. So if you are going from Sacramento to LA you have to go 
through San Francisco and take the 101 to LA. The 99 has plenty of fast 
chargers(no CCS) but the 5 is quicker from San Francisco or San Jose.  From my 
searches there is a need for some fast charging on the 5 North of Sacramento to 
Oregon...but sometimes the market must bear the burden...I'll talk to my boss.  
Maybe he can find a grant.  Lawrence Rhodes....


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