Eventually, a car MFR will wake up to the fact that he can put the entire
EVSE on the car and have a simple #14 pull-out extension cord (lieka
vacuum cleaner) that can plug into ANY standard 120v 15 am outlet.

Then we will truly meet the valuie promise of the EV... thatis, charge
anywhere and everywhere from the 200,000,000 standard oiutlets in every
hhome in America...  For those in apartments.. it is a bit more
complicated...  But why not make it simple for the 200,000,000 of us that
have an outlet?

The j1772 is needed only for L2 where there is not a standard, ubiquitous
GFCI protected outleteverywhere.  But where there is a standard 120v
outlet, why don't we make a commuter EV with that standard pull-out plug
option.

Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:24 PM
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David,
You are describing the European charging stations that have a Mennekes
connector on the pedestal and every EV comes with the charging cord that
plugs into that Mennekes connector and into the EV.
Only the US situation is that the cord is attached to the station.
Apparently that is not always beneficial.

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From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of via EV
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:20 AM
To: brucedp5 via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Cut-EVSE-cord-vandalism (not copper-thieves)
Greenfield-MA

I know it would be more inconvenient but why doesn't every EV have their
own J1772 extension cord and the EVSE just have a socket like on the
vehicle? This way no cord is left at the charge station and every car can
lock the cord to the car. When a car is done charging another vehicle can
plug in and leave the first car's cord on the ground with the protective
cap on.

David D. Nelson

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