Well, the safety agencies require it at the plug, or no more than 1 foot from the plug. It kind of makes sense since the primary purpose of the EVSE is to be a ground fault interrupter, it can only detect ground faults downstream so you want it as close to the source as possible.
But the requirements seem to get softer every year so I'm sure we'll eventually get back to the vacuum cleaner model. We just have to wait for the volume to go up and the cost-cutting to begin. Curiously European EVSE regulations don't require GFI/RCD functionality in the EVSE itself, as long as it's a fixed installation with a GFI/RCD breaker upstream, so in that case they can almost do the vacuum cleaner model already. Meanwhile UL marked toasters are being sold without any safety measures. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Eventually, a car MFR will wake up to the fact that he can put the entire > EVSE on the car and have a simple #14 pull-out extension cord (lieka > vacuum cleaner) that can plug into ANY standard 120v 15 am outlet. > > Then we will truly meet the valuie promise of the EV... thatis, charge > anywhere and everywhere from the 200,000,000 standard oiutlets in every > hhome in America... For those in apartments.. it is a bit more > complicated... But why not make it simple for the 200,000,000 of us that > have an outlet? > > The j1772 is needed only for L2 where there is not a standard, ubiquitous > GFCI protected outleteverywhere. But where there is a standard 120v > outlet, why don't we make a commuter EV with that standard pull-out plug > option. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water > via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:24 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Cut-EVSE-cord-vandalism (not copper-thieves) > Greenfield-MA > > David, > You are describing the European charging stations that have a Mennekes > connector on the pedestal and every EV comes with the charging cord that > plugs into that Mennekes connector and into the EV. > Only the US situation is that the cord is attached to the station. > Apparently that is not always beneficial. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless > > office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water > XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info > > http://www.proxim.com > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and > proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received > this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any > unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this > message is prohibited. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:20 AM > To: brucedp5 via EV > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Cut-EVSE-cord-vandalism (not copper-thieves) > Greenfield-MA > > I know it would be more inconvenient but why doesn't every EV have their > own J1772 extension cord and the EVSE just have a socket like on the > vehicle? This way no cord is left at the charge station and every car can > lock the cord to the car. When a car is done charging another vehicle can > plug in and leave the first car's cord on the ground with the protective > cap on. > > David D. Nelson > > Sent from my Windows 10 phone > > From: brucedp5 via EV > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160906/6bd5 > 3dc7/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- www.electric-lemon.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160906/238451c7/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
