> Sorry Robert, I completely disagree with you.
> most people ultimately won't care if they are driving an ICE or an EV,
> they bought the car for transportation and that's it.
> If they need to go to a quick charge station once a week,
> that's status quo for them. No big deal.

I think many people are smarter than that.  Once people with a daily 20 or
30 mile commute realize that they are spending an extra $15,000 for a 200
mile battery that they never use, when a $5,000 can do the same job we will
start to see the practicality come back in to the car purchasing decision.

> there are plenty of people who will never have a fixed location to charge.

And so they will likely continue to need an ICE.  But if the other 80% of
us switch to electric look what a boon to emissions reduction that will
be.  And those tht can afford to buy a 200 mile EV will.  But they should
be aware that there will never be enough fast chargers and they will waste
a good portion of their lives trying to find a place to charge and then
have to waste a half hour waiting for it to work.

Most people are smarter than that.

> At some point, the cost of building very high speed level 3 charge
stations
> will be cheaper than providing L2 charging in parking places.

There is lunacy in that vision as well.  It makes no sense to put L2
chargers in workplace, airport, trainstation parking spaces.  Or any place
where cars spend 8 hours a day parked.  The L2 is a complete waste there,
when a standard 120v oulet can do the same job.  In 8 hours, an L1 ouitlet
(or cord) can provide 40 miles of range.  More than the daily usage of the
average american.

And cars spend 23 hours a day parked somewhere.

Bob

> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Sent: 05-Nov-16 9:20:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Local dealer $1k-deposit-signup(reserve): Bolt EV's In
> Production
>
> Seriously?
>>
>>  if you don't have access to an EVSE, you can't charge your Bolt.
>>>
>>
>> It is foolish for anyone to buy an EV if he does not have a parking place
>> and a place to charge it everyday. (At home or at work).  Fast charging is
>> only for emergencies and trips.  It is UNSUSTAINABLE to think that EV's
>> are
>> going to be fueled using the old gas-station model (which is the ultimate
>> in inconveneince that the EV (charged while parked at home or at work)  is
>> best at eliminating!)....
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 8:02 AM, paul dove via EV <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Because the government forced them to make it
>>>
>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  > On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <[email protected]
>>> >
>>>  wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > I looked at the Bolt last night on line, spent a little while going
>>> thru
>>>  the
>>>  > stats, various reviews etc.
>>>  >
>>>  > One thing that totally astounded me was that the CSS Inlet and HV
>>>  charging set
>>>  > up costs about $500 and ALSO the Level 1 charger costs another $500 or
>>>  so. That
>>>  > means that if you don't have access to an EVSE, you can't charge your
>>>  Bolt.
>>>  >
>>>  > Come on now folks, is this company really serious about entering into
>>>  the EV
>>>  > market? Why produce an EV it you won't even supply a way to charge
>>> it...
>>>  >
>>>  > My 2 watts opinion...
>>>  >
>>>  > Rush Dougherty
>>>  > Tucson AZ 85719
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
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