Yep. I find it useful in explaining to ICE drivers that the Leaf holds
the energy equivalent of a gallon of gas (rounding roughly), but gets in
the neighborhood of 90 miles to a gallon.

Cal Frye
Oberlin, OH
www.calfrye.com/evs.html

> brucedp5 via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>
> September 24, 2017 at 1:24 PM
>
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Los-Angeles-to-Las-Vegas-missing-links-for-CHAdeMO-users-tp4687991.html
> ... if only there were CHAdeMO fast chargers in Barstow, Baker, and Primm
> ... 2013 Leaf ...
> ]
>
> The highway those cities are are on I-15. Assuming you leave your LA home
> and connect to I-15, the first L3 going east from LA is at Victorville and
> reading the plugshare.com comments, you would have to stay with your
> Leaf to
> repeatedly restart your L3 charge as it shuts itself off before it should
> (eVgo sez they'll investigate).
>
> From there it is not only a water-less desert but, also a L3& j1772-less
> desert until you get to Las Vegas.
>
> I'll assume your 2013 Leaf EV has the L2-6kW on-board charger. There are
> plenty of L2 charging on that route, but even the quickest L2 method of
> charging to 80%SOC, unplug, & go to the next EVSE, would take 3hours
> at each
> EVSE.
>
> Real-life:
> 15 minutes at Victorville on eVgo's L3 +
> https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/53655
> 14400 Bear Valley Rd., Victorville, CA 92392
>
> 3hrs at Barstow on RV-park L2 (expensive, negotiate during the day,
> bring a
> 14-50 to j1772 6kW EVSE)+
> https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/82799
> 36445 Soapmine Rd, Barstow CA 92311
>
> 3hrs at Baker on RV-park L2 (call during the day to arrange, bring a 14-50
> to j1772 6kW EVSE) +
> https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/45541
> 56370 Death Valley Rd, Baker, CA 92364
>
> 3hrs at Primm on Chargepoint's L2 +
> https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/15160
> 100 West Primm Blvd., Primm, NV 89019
>
> 15min at Henderson on eVgo's L3
> https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/81329
> 2601 Wigwam Pkwy, Henderson, NV 89074
>
> Combined, that's 10+hours of L3+L2 charging from Victorville to Las Vegas
> (20+hrs if you only have a 3kW on-board charger), and it is expensive and
> inconvenient.
>
> But if you really-really wanted to, it could be done (that is the kind of
> wackadoodle EV-adventure-driving I did in the 90's to prove an EV could do
> it. But today, with 200+mi production EVs and public L3 EVSE, we
> should not
> need to).
>
> So, why isn't there a contiguous chain of public L3&L2 on I-15?
> There has been a whole-lot of pr talk about it:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=los+angeles+vegas+I-15+chademo
>
> https://www.evgo.com/about/news/evgo-breaks-ground-first-public-high-power-electric-vehicle-charging-station-connecting-los-angeles-las-vegas-worlds-tallest-thermometer/
>
> but nothing completed/accomplished. Trying other sources, looking for
> public EVSE along I-15:
>
> https://www.evgo.com/charging-locations/
>
> https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html
> shows nothing more.
>
> Bottom line: You would have to bring your own 6kW EVSE with a 14-50
> plug on
> it and also be stuck paying way too much to charge.
>
>
> IMO: ever since the erratic, bizarre, fed administration was elected,
> it has
> been an unreliable entity. From a business standpoint, I can see that
> uncertainty being why EVSE companies do not feel they have an
> incentive nor
> reason to complete the installation of public EVSE between LA and Las
> Vegas
> (I don't like it, but there it is in all its self-absorbed glory).
>
>
>
>
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> Dan Kegel via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>
> September 24, 2017 at 1:15 AM
> Hi all!
> My family drove from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and back this summer,
> but we did it in our ICE rather than our Leaf...
> if only there were CHAdeMO fast chargers in Barstow, Baker, and Primm,
> it'd be possible.
>
> I hear EVGo is planning a fast charger in Baker, but it's still in the
> future.
>
> Anyone heard any news lately?
>
> I'd even be happy with a working chain of CCS chargers, that'd be an
> excuse
> to replace my 2013 Leaf :-)
>
> - Dan
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