I've been driving my 2014 Volt for almost a year, mostly EV.  It is hands down 
the best car I've owned, electric or ICE.  You can get a used Volt for very low 
cost, I paid $11,800 for mine with 51,000 miles (it now has 65,000).  I have 
done zero maintenance on this car and still have 50% oil life left.
 

    On Friday, October 27, 2017 12:06 AM, damon henry via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
 

 Not to dispute your HOV sticker claims which is a very California thing that a 
limited number of people really care about, but in my home, my wife's new Prius 
Prime is being used almost exclusively as an EV.  It's a great car, and has 
made it tough for me to keep up with her in terms of driving pure electric, 
even though I have two DIY EV conversions sitting in my garage.  I would much 
rather take her Plug-in Hybrid places than either of my own EVs, and I actually 
look forward to her leaving town so I can have her car.

If you are a long time EV enthusiast like me who never wanted a lead sled and 
is used to short range EVs for most of your primary driving, I would strongly 
suggest taking test drives in all the current plug-in hybrids and seeing if you 
might want one.

I know PIH rub some people on this list the wrong way, but if you are doing all 
of your driving pushing electrons through the motor instead of gas through the 
engine then what is the difference?

I have test driven both the Chevy Bolt and the Chevy Volt, and if I buy either 
for myself, which I am considering, it is more likely to be the Volt.  I know 
it would cover almost all of my driving in EV mode, and for those times when I 
want to take it cross country (I seem to take about half a dozen 700 - 1600 
mile road trips a year) it does not bother to stop in at one of the 100,000 or 
so gas stations in the United States for a 5 minute fill up.

Damon




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Subject: [EVDL] Untruths in Toyota advertising: lies, lies, and more lies



A local Toyota TV ad was pushing Prius Prime (which is not an EV).
Yet, it prominently had a white CA hov (car pool lane) sticker shown on the
upper right of the TV screen ad (as if the Prius Prime was an EV, which it
isn't, its a hybrid which can only have a green CA hov sticker).

You can see the white sticker 7 seconds into their video:

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Wouldn't It Be Nice - Prius Prime - 0:17
4 hours ago - Uploaded by Scott Skougard ...

For those that can't load the video, see the white hov sticker shown in the
thumbnail image on:

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Here are images of the correct sticker a prius prime should display:

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Clearly, Toyota TV ad is lying, ... again.
Not a big lie perhaps, but it gives you that bad taste of how
sneaky-deceptive automakers are.

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