I for do not think we need government involvement.
Private enterprise will eventually fill the gaps. There's no money in it yet
but there will be.
From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: Lawrence Rhodes <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Chademo still lagging behind on the west coast electric Hwy
I-5 CCS adequate.
I guess I should have included CCS as good. You can now make a trek North on
the 5 to get to Oregon. However while you pointed out L3 stations they are all
CCS. I can't use that with my Leaf. I'm not venting just pointing out. As
well there is a CCS gap from Stockton CA to LA on the 5 for CCS. However there
are 3 main paths to LA from N. California. Two out of three are good for each
standard. It just takes some planning on Plugshare and realizing L3 is not a
good way of looking at it. You must segregate each standard so you don't show
up at a L3 with a Bolt and see a Tesla station....oops. I do know how to use
Plugshare and when I request Chademo it gives the right results. That is how I
found the gap in N. California. You can do the trip on Chademo. You just have
to find an L2 and suffer a 3hour addition to your travel time. That is what we
did coming North on the 101 from LA to San Francisco. If you drive Chademo you
must stay in King City for a few hours. As of today You can not make a trip on
the 5 from San Diego to Oregon in either standard. CCS must use 99. Chademo
has the gap near Weed, CA where a 3 hour stay must be made. There is no
alternative route. What I think should happen is Govt. involvement. It
should be required that all fast charge stations have equipment or allow
equipment that allows any fast charge standard to be utilized. I would love to
use the Supercharger system with my Leaf. That would mean I could go cross
country with my Leaf today...However with the reduced charging speed of 40kw
not sure I'd want to go cross country with that slow standard. I will probably
buy a Tesla 3 with 140kw charging speed. It's not the range...it is the
charging time that makes EV's slow. If you could charge in 10 minutes even an
84 mile Leaf would be acceptable to every car driver. Lawrence Rhodes
From: brucedp5 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] L3 EVSE: Chademo still lagging behind on the west
coast electric Hwy I-5
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Lawrence,
a couple of points:
other than letting you feel good venting on the evdl to fellow EV'rs (and
providing some interesting detail on your EV route/experiences), we can't do
much about correcting the too far away gaps between public L3 EVSE. I have
vented in the past but always let the powers that be also know.
I suggest (if you haven't already) shoot these lack of infrastructure
concerns to those that can act on them. VW is still touting how great are
their efforts to install EVSE
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan
Over a ten year period ending in 2027, Electrify America will invest $2
billion in Zero ... charging network -- to drive EV adoption by reducing
charging anxiety ...
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=volkswagen+charging
VW wouldn't be making such an effort if it were for the efforts of many
(including sierra club) to sue/hold vw responsible for their dieselgate
https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/11/all-50-states-apply-for-vw-settlement-funds-ahead-schedule
So, I would let both sierra club and their buddies at plug in america know
of the charging discrepancies.
2nd point: I think you and I are using plugshare differently, giving
different results.
You mentioned Mt. Shasta, but sometimes Lake Shasta is transposed in the
word use. If I understand correctly, you are EV touring/trekking north on
I-5 from Sacramento aiming for just south of Medford, OR.
I came up with L3 CHAdeMO points to get you there and back (map)
https://goo.gl/maps/wLYRweUf9Es
https://www.plugshare.com/location/81743
2256 Solano St, Corning, CA 96021
https://www.plugshare.com/location/73333
833 E Cypress Ave, Redding, CA 96002
https://www.plugshare.com/location/81745
4314 Pioneer Way, Dunsmuir, CA 96025
https://www.plugshare.com/location/75901
1868 Fort Jones Rd, Yreka, CA 96097
https://www.plugshare.com/location/6542
2371 Ashland St, Ashland, OR 97520
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