On 09/09/2018 08:04 PM, mark hanson via EV wrote:
Hi Willie etc,

It's hard to find actual published Tesla battery failure numbers since Tesla
sends internal field service guys "Tesla Rangers" out to your house to
replace any bad cells that the car radios help for. When I was at a EV race
about 5 years ago, I asked three Tesla owners if they had any Tesla Rangers
come out to their homes in the past year for battery issues.  All three
raised their hands.  While this business model of impeccable field service
may work for high priced vehicles/wealthy customers, I don't see how it can
be *sustained* for lower priced Model-3's (set to come out next year).

I'm SURE the ranger service will change 12v batteries; that's something that has to be done as often as yearly and is a couple of hour job. But removing and opening the battery case is a BIG job. In fact, I don't believe service centers open battery boxes. Certainly, it is not done in the owner's driveway. All battery repairs that I know of have been sent to California.

Tesla DOES seem to be moving to more ranger service and I contend it is likely more cost effective than getting cars into the service centers and then managing all the cars/jobs. Not to mention being FAR more convenient to the car buyers. Generally, service centers supply loaners; that HAS to be very expensive since the loaners are mostly new high end cars. The loaners may eventually get discounted with a few thousand miles by $5k-$10k and sold as "inventory".

I REALLY hope/believe that we are not far from the point where the cars will be driving themselves to service centers and then driving themselves home after repair.


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