I don’t know if they will or won’t bring in additional services, I only know 
about the discussions on charging.

However, I suspect that bringing these other things would require a change in 
statute, and would further be very controversial.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Nice, but not the same. When you bring in the rest of the services, you 
> provide a way to provide ESVEs net zero regarding government funds. That 
> would likely bring much higher public support. And, of course, you have more 
> options while you are waiting for a charge.
> 
> Peri
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 20-Jan-19 6:36:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Further evidence
> 
>> You may see this in California rest areas (just the EVSEs). There have been 
>> behind the scenes discussions about this.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In US urban areas, I don't know. But along US freeways, I'd like to see 
>>> something similar to what France did.
>>> 
>>> Every so many kilometers, there's a services stop. It's much like our US 
>>> rest areas except it has fueling servcies, convenience store(s) and usually 
>>> some food service choices. I believe these are contracted out to vendors, 
>>> not provided by the autoroute operator.
>>> 
>>> In the case of US freeways, what if we did something similar where the 
>>> state funded a bank of ESVEs (at high kW) at various rest stops and worked 
>>> out a payback from contracting service operators (food, etc.). Cost up 
>>> front to the state would be significant but, after some years, the cost 
>>> would be zero.
>>> 
>>> By the way, these autoroute service areas are really convenient. Rather 
>>> than exit at some interchange, sit at various stop lights, and hunt around 
>>> for the services you want, you simply take the exit and park. Really easy. 
>>> Then you zip back on your way.
>>> 
>>> Peri
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Willie via EV" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: "Willie" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 19-Jan-19 5:22:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Further evidence
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/19/19 2:35 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
>>>>> Should that infrastructure be the responsibility of the OEMs, of the 
>>>>> growing charging industry, government, or...?
>>>> 
>>>> I would say that whatever companies/entities that want BEVs to succeed 
>>>> would assume the responsibility.  That is clearly not most auto 
>>>> manufacturers.  OR most players in the "charging industry".  ONE stands 
>>>> out and, single handedly, is responsible for the success of BEVs.
>>>> 
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