The zoe gets 300km range in city driving in the real world. 400km is by the nedc measure, which shouldn't be used for electric cars or hybrids (very low speed).
Likely the vw is measured on a more realistic cycle Sent from BlueMail On 5 May 2019, 12:53, at 12:53, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >On 4 May 2019 at 18:54, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> The base variant will have a 48kWh battery pack and a WLTP range >rating of 330 >> kilometres. This model will be priced from ¬29,900 ($47,170) in >Germany. >> Government incentives in France will reduce the price to a more >reasonable >> ¬23,900 ($37,400). > >That price should make it quite competitive with the cheapo stripped >Renault >Zoe, which is currently a big seller in Europe thanks to its relatively >low >price (IIRC 23.2k Eur before incentive if you lease the battery, 17.2k >Eur >after, and I think the battery costs something like 9k Eur more). > >Renault has run some promos offering to lease the stripped Zoe and >battery >for 190 Eur per month, though with some absurdly low yearly km >allowance >like 7500km. > >Of course you can't buy a Zoe here in the States, surprise surprise, >but I >digress. Now let's see if VW offer the ID here. > >Funny though, the VW has a 20% bigger battery, but 17.5% less WLTP >range. >Zoe is rated 400km with a 40kW battery. VW must have really messed >something up in their engineering (aerodynamics? weight?). > >Zoe is also not losing money; in fact Renault is making a small profit >on >the car. Renault thinks they'll do even better on the new version >coming >out next year. It'll be based on the new Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi >common >EV platform, unless the Carlos Ghosn mess trashes the partnership -- or > >Nissan does. > >> profitability forecast to begin around 2025. > >This isn't a big deal, though the anti-EV Koch crew often crows at it. >From >what I've read, it's not uncommon for newly launched ICEVs to show a >loss >for the first few years too. I seem to recall that it took Honda >something >like 5 years before they made a profit on the Accord, but I might be >remembering that wrong. > >David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >EVDL Administrator > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my >email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190505/a44e32fe/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
