People rarely do the math. Say they do a 660 mile trip 3 times a year and they drive the normal American 15,000 miles a year, then the trip mileage is only 13% of their total usage. Miniscule.
For a pure EV. Yes, they pay 28 cents per kwh for that 13% of the time, but all the rest of the time they pay very reduced rates overnight. Our utility offers EV charging overnight at 3 cents per kWh. That's almost TEN TIMES cheaper than when they charge on the road. So 87% of 3 cents and 13% of 28 cents AVERAGES to 6 cents per kWh or about 2 cents a mile Even if they pay 10 cents per kWh, then the annual average electricity cost is 12.3 cents per kWh or about 4 cents a mile. Who cares that they spend a little extra on trips when the annual average cost is so low. And for my family, daughter has a Prius Prime who's daily use is under 30 miles and my Volt for my 35 mile days. And at 87% electric, I'm still only 13% the environmental concerns of a gas car. Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:49 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Cc: Peri Hartman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile You may be right, though you aren't taking into account the other factors, most importantly the long term maintenance. However, I think the bigger factor is the amount of time you need to spend charging on a long road trip. If you only drive 200 or so miles a day, no problem. You can charge at night. But if you are like most people and drive 500+, you'll need at least two charging stops, which will add a few hours to your travel. You might be able to combine that with meal stops or point of interest stops, but I don't think the infrastructure is that opportune yet. In the future, when we have faster charging and competition on kWh pricing, I hope we'll be on the other side of the inflection point. Peri ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mark Hanson via EV" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: "Mark Hanson" <[email protected]> Sent: 22-May-19 7:06:20 AM Subject: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile >Hi folks >It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius Prime vs a pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay an average of 28c per kWh average on the road at level 3 fast charging stations. We have shorter range cheaper EVs (Spark bought 1 year old for $14k and Leaf $9.2k). At $3 a gallon/50 = 6c per mile and at 28c per kWh / 4 (ac meas)= 7c per mile in a long range EV (also have to pay $40k for the car with the 60kwh or so battery pack). Maybe it's better for the environment to drive a long range EV but for your wallet the Prius Prime and a shorter range EV for 90% miles local trips makes more sense. >Have a renewable energy day, >Mark >Www.Reevadiy.org > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
