Lot of assumptions in that article. The Y and the 3 are built on the same frame.
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2019, at 10:58 PM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > https://cleantechnica.com/2019/12/28/atlis-shows-us-how-to-make-a-more-conventional-electric-truck/ > Atlis Shows Us How To Make A More Conventional Electric Truck > December 28th, 2019 Jennifer Sensiba > > [images / Atlis Motor Vehicles > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/12/Truck.png > pu e-truck > > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/12/flatbed.png > flatbed > > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/12/Utility-Body.png > utility > > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/12/Atlis-Modular-Frame.png > Modular > ] > > In a previous article, I explained the real issue with Cybertruck [ > https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-criticizing-the-look-barely-misses-the-real-problem/ > ] that people (barely) missed when criticizing its looks. I’d recommend > reading the whole thing, but it all boils down to two things: modularity and > economy of scale. > > The Challenge > When an automaker designs and builds a vehicle, there are two kinds of > costs: those that are one-time expenses, and those that repeat for every > copy of the vehicle produced. Repeating expenses are things like materials > and assembly labor. One-time expenses are things like the initial design of > the vehicle and getting the factory ready to build it. > > To reduce costs, it’s important to be able to spread the one-time costs over > as many vehicles as possible. If you spend millions designing a vehicle, but > only make 10 of them, the design cost per unit would be in the hundreds of > thousands of dollars. If you spend millions of dollars designing a car that > gets copied a million times, you only spend a few dollars per vehicle. This > helps immensely when it comes to getting prices down. > > Another related factor is economy of scale. The more bulk you buy materials, > parts, and sometimes even labor in, the better deals you can get. Not only > is this like buying things at Sam’s Club instead of Walmart, but you also > find yourself in a much better bargaining position when you’re buying more. > > Ideally, you’d get the best of both of these by selling everybody the same > car, right? Sure, but everybody doesn’t want the same car. Perhaps more > importantly, needs vary as well. And that’s the real challenge: to minimize > costs you have to sell one vehicle to as many people with different needs as > possible. > > One Solution: Modular Designs > One great point in Cybertruck’s favor is that it’s designed to be built and > assembled as cheaply as possible. Simplicity is the key to that, but no > matter how much you reduce the repeating costs of a vehicle, you’re going to > reach a point where a fixed design has found as many buyers as it can find > without being physically different to accommodate more wants and needs. > > If you have to redesign the vehicle from scratch and retool an entire > factory every time you create a new variant of a design, you aren’t getting > the advantage of spreading one design out over more units. Unibody and > “stressed skin” designs are built in one piece, and can’t be redesigned in > piecemeal fashion. > > That’s why today’s pickups are body-on-frame. Having an endoskeleton instead > of an exoskeleton isn’t a “legacy” design — it exists for very important > economic reasons. > > With a body-on-frame truck, you can completely change the design of one part > while leaving the rest of the vehicle alone. For example, you can remove the > cab and bed and replace it with the body of an SUV while leaving the frame, > suspension, fuel system, and drive systems completely alone. The factory > that puts those parts out now gets to build more units without a redesign. > > Not all truck buyers want a standard bed, but that doesn’t matter. > Automakers often sell trucks without a bed at all, so customizers and buyers > can put flatbeds, cargo boxes, septic pump tanks, and even housing units > (aka RVs). > > By being able to sell 3/4 of a truck to that many more buyers, you get that > much better economy of scale without suffering a redesign. > > Atlis Is Building a Modular EV Truck > This is exactly what Atlis Motors is doing. Instead of building a unibody > truck, the company started by building a frame that includes the battery and > drivetrain [ > https://www.atlismotorvehicles.com/xp-platform > ]. Attached to this is everything else needed to carry nearly any body on > the top. > > On top of that, Atlis designed a truck [ > https://www.atlismotorvehicles.com/xt-truck > ], but it’s far from the only thing that could go on top. Like “legacy” > trucks, you’ll be able to get one without a bed to accommodate a variety of > different work truck uses. Unlike today’s modular trucks, it will also be > possible to buy one without a body at all and build what you want on it. > Atlis will be able to build the basic underpinnings for vans, RVs, and so > many other things. > > I mean no offense to all of the many Cybertruck fans who read this article, > but it does show that there are a variety of ways to meet the needs of > different truck buyers. It’s a big market, and there is more than enough > room for modular trucks like the Atlis and one-piece trucks like Tesla’s > latest. > [© cleantechnica.com] > > > + > https://electrek.co/2019/12/25/watch-video-rivian-tank-turn-turning-radius/ > Watch Rivian spin in place with ‘tank turn’ – best turning radius ever? > Dec. 25th 2019 The Rivian is about 18 feet long, and the best turning > radius from these tiny cars is typically 20-30 feet. 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