Here at work, we have some evs for moving equipment and boom lifts. I was under the impression that the slow charge after the 80% level was for deep charging. We have two trolleys that have been charged in this manner for 6 years on the same batteries. I wonder if maybe the fact that they are lead-acid makes their charging properties different? I am not extensively trained with evs, just go with what I have been told. I do love to learn.
George Mullineaux 3rd Shift Wrench Monkey Pinnacle Corrugated, Landis, N.C. -----Original Message----- From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Jay Summet via EV Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 16:22 To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Jay Summet <j...@summet.com> Subject: [External] Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging Various Companies CCS Chevy Bolt Plus, if you are using a DC fast charger, the speed of charging drops significantly after you reach 80% charged (sometimes down to the speed of a Level 2 charger!). So if you can make it to the next charger with only an 80% charge, it's faster to drive off on the next leg of your trip as soon as you reach 80% charged. Jay On 8/11/20 3:56 PM, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: > Only charging to 80% is supposed to significantly increase battery life. > Not only that, but the battery really doesn't like being fully charged in hot > weather. > > August 10, 2020 10:35 AM, "Peter Eckhoff via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >> Hello Mark, >> >> We own a Bolt and love it. Hope you have many pleasant drives with it. >> >> I second Steve's comment about Plug Share: Great app!! >> >> One of the things to try is that Chevrolet would let us "fast charge" >> using their 20kwh charger for free. You might want to try to do some >> fast charging in your local area just to see what sort of reception >> you receive at various dealers. Most have been very accommodating and >> will free up an ICE'd spot; sometimes without asking. >> >> Most EV companies will mention recharging to 80% and only to 100% for >> trips. You might want to ask the folks on: >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furl >> defense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chevybolt.org__%3B!!CvttNVKvMs >> Q7MGjF!r7qZuVxo4l2hkY63xFb7IopwCuxs16tCdoNqc61IAdxIrkISjS_oCdKdjqI3jx >> PJn0w5Yw28Km69tQA%24&data=02%7C01%7Cgeorgemullineaux%40pinnacleco >> rrugated.com%7C81137dfd405442f0c1ad08d83e343d09%7C976178cc71b24588b87 >> 0337d092cdfe3%7C0%7C0%7C637327741372604198&sdata=6gCoOmIIO06s1mxL >> kdcfMU5DrUbJLisgIcmnh6pxxyQ%3D&reserved=0 >> >> It's been a while since I've participated there but it was a good >> source of info and products for reading your pack. >> >> Peter >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:53 PM Steves via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >>> Congrats! It’s a great car and fun to drive. >>> >>> I think, in general, fast chargers take credit card and the regular >>> ones are generally on a network. You’ll end up joining several >>> depending on where you travel. I don’t think ChargePoint has a fee- but you >>> do have to preload your account. >>> >>> I use PlugShare usually. You can filter to just show compatible >>> chargers. I wish map programs would show where chargers are. I use a >>> map program to get to my destination but then I need to pull over and bring >>> up plugshare to find any local chargers. Anyone know a better way? >>> >>> You are near Blacksburg right? Kroger’s have free charging at their >>> gas stations (not fast charging). >>> >>> I don’t know about switching to 100% periodically. >>> >>> -Steve >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Folks >>> I just bought a 20’ Chevy Bolt LT $30k with Covid Discount ($40k >>> sucker/sticker price) with some fluffy stuff (last on lot). This was >>> the first time I used a fast charger CCS, easy with a credit card, >>> about 1/2 hour to get to 80% Electrify America. The dealer wanted me >>> to Sign up with ChargePoint with membership card but don’t understand why >>> if all “pumps” accept a credit card. >>> Is PlugShare the best all inclusive app to see all the fast charging >>> CCS stations? I was surprised (unlike the Leaf manual), the Chevy >>> operators manual was Just the fluffy stuff, nothing about battery >>> longevity like only charge to 80% for best life (which I’m doing) >>> except for a long trip. 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