Also keep in mind, the smaller you make the 12v, the more it will be
deep-cycled, thus shortening it's life.

In many cases putting a larger amp-hour battery in makes it last longer, so
depending on how much extra $ the larger battery is, it may be better for
your wallet (not to mention the hassle of having to deal with a EOL
battery, usually at the worst possible time when it's cold and wet.)

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:19 AM Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> > Even a Yellow Top is the wrong battery for the job in your Leaf. It too
> > is optimized for engine starting. But it does have enough amphour
> > capacity to also support the large number of "always-on" computer loads
> > in modern cars that will run down the batter in a few weeks if you don't
> > have a high enough amphour capacity.
>
> If 41 lead acid amp hours is adequate for a Leaf how many LiPO amp hours
> do you need?
>
> 41 amphours, if you want it to power all the vampire loads for weeks if
> the car has to sit.
>
> You can only cut back on the amphours if you are willing to shorten the
> length of time the car can sit without being used.
>
> > If I knew how much a Leaf used daily I could calculate the proper sized
> > battery for as many months unused a Leaf has to endure.
>
> Yes. It's not too hard a measurement to make, either. Put an ammeter in
> one of the battery leads. Check it several times while the car sits to
> get an idea of the average current (it wouldn't surprise me if there are
> some loads that cycle on/off on some schedule).
>
> > Since LiPO performs better than lead then a smaller battery should work
>
> LiPO performs better at high currents. At low currents, both lead and
> lithium will deliver essentially all their rated amphour capacity.
> Lead-acids may even do better, since the capacity is usually specified
> at the "20-hour" rate, and discharging over many weeks is far slower.
>
> > however the smart thing to do as with an ICE... simply use a battery
> > tender or fully charge every few weeks from external sources... maybe >
> a little solar panel in the windshield some Leafs have it built in.
>
> Yes. In fact, I added a small PV panel to our Prius for exactly this
> reason. Its 12v battery only lasts about 3 weeks if the car isn't
> driven. That occasionally happened, when the car was left at the airport
> when we went on vacation, etc. The PV panel completely eliminated the
> problem.
>
> Lee Hart
>
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