Jerry, as media folks like to say, "the plural of anecdote is not data."  

What you've given us is an anecdote, your own limited experience.  
Unfortunately that's not really useful statistical data on the safety - or 
hazard - of Volt batteries without BMSes in situations that may be very 
different from yours.

Probably thousands of people put pennies under their fuses (or swapped 15 
amp for 30 amp) and never had a fire because they never actually overloaded 
the circuits. So would you say there also that "at some point one has to 
admit that is how it is vs previous thoughts"?

A BMS is similar.  If everything goes right, you may never have a problem.  
That doesn't mean that it's safe, any more than overfusing is safe.

The EVDL is a public forum that's archived in several different places on 
the web.  This isn't 1999 any more and in the interest of your own legal 
safety I suggest that you be a little bit cautious about what you write 
here.

I won't say you shouldn't cite your own experience - quite the opposite.  I 
think it's definitely worth reporting it, even though I personally wouldn't 
do the same.

However, I strongly suggest that you add a disclaimer stating that this is 
your experience only, and that battery and automotive engineers don't 
consider it safe to use a lithium battery without a proven reliable BMS.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my 
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