Small payments is an issue we struggle with Parking Energy so I can tell what my charging infrastructure company planned to do with it.
” Now can we get them to support the use of a simple credit card to pay for charging, without this RFID and charging-club nonsense?” As at least in Europe all credit and debit card payments include commission and handling fees and as these charging stations have no other sale it has forced everyone to RFIDs and clubs. The transaction and authorization volume is not there. This allow payments through a credit line (~$20 with Parking Energy). So your card will be charged only after that amount of charging events is full. We charge around 20c/kWh. So ~100kWh chunks. QR code activation with mobile payments would be really nice. But there are several systems already and handling everything from Diners Club to Elons Space Coins is tricky. A coin slot then? 🤪😅 No. No thanks. If it would be feasible I would order all our statios free of charge first thing in the morning. But that would not be called business anymore. Expensive hobby would be more better description. BUT! We might get to exactly that. There’s going to be horde of battery containers with DC quick charging (in China). I already sparked this idea 16 years ago when I paralleled LFP strings with 350Ah cells and used isolated charger to fill the string 1 while chopping the current down to lower voltage string 2. Charging station battery can be galvanically connected to the vehicle battery as long as the system is isolated from the grid (in Europe). I bet ERCOT would love to have 20.000 1MWh charging stations with a PPA. That would allow all free charging. 😎 -Jukka ma 29.3.2021 klo 23.37 EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> kirjoitti: > On 29 Mar 2021 at 22:46, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote: > > > I heard Tesla SC is going to be open in Europe to all cars. I'm not sure > if > > it already has happened. > > Jukka , thanks for the post. I hope it has happened, or will soon. > > It would make a lot of sense. EU seems to have somewhat less regulatory > capture than we have in the US, and it's significantly more pro-consumer. > Remember that it was EU that pushed for mobile phone interoperability (GMS > system). > > I am not an expert on this but it appears to me that major western > European > nations (perhaps bar Italy) are promoting EVs to some extent or another > and > have plans to (almost?) phase out ICEVs some time between 2030 and 2040. > > They've been building charging points rapidly, but requiring Tesla to fall > into line for universal CCS interoperability would clarify the EU's > commitment, and help expand the charging network. > > Now can we get them to support the use of a simple credit card to pay for > charging, without this RFID and charging-club nonsense? I've bought > gasoline with a credit card at fully unattended / automated filling > stations > in Europe so I don't see what the problem is for charging points. Maybe > someone can illuminate this. > > With simple credit payment, no apps, no RFID, EV driving across the EU > will > become a lot easier. That and maintaining the charging points so that > they > actually work when you get there! > > And while we're dreaming, more >100kW points, and more renewable energy > powering them ... > > The wild card is recent political gains made by nationalist political > parties across the EU. It could change but now I think there's at least > 50% > chance that French presidency will fall next year. I worry that that > could > lead to weakening or even backtracking on EV adoption. But it looks as if > despite bojo and company the UK is holding firm thus far, so perhaps that > won't be a major issue after all. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > If all our bicycles turn into cars, that's a horrible figure. > It would scare the world. > > -- Zhai Guangming, China National Petroleum Corporation > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210330/57c3bc1d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
