With Ford’s reveal, is he contemplating the F-150 Lightning in its place?
I think it very exciting to potentially even have choice in the near future. It certainly raises the bar for everyone. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 20, 2021, at 10:50 AM, Rod Hower <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My son put $100 down for the Tesla Cybertruck. He will sell his 13 MPG > lifted Jeep Gladiator once he gets the Cybertruck. > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 01:38:32 PM EDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > But back to the Ford F-150 Lightning - $40-90k before incentives. Doesn’t > sound cheap, but it performs better than any F-150 has ever performed, which > is exactly what’s needed to generate sales and excitement, and make it *the* > F-150 to own. Hopefully the base 230 mile range will be sufficient for most. > > $100 to reserve one - any takers on this list? > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > On May 20, 2021, at 7:11 AM, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Didn’t exactly sneak it in...just put it where it made sense. > > > > I agree about a range extended, but for those who want the option to pull > > lots of power out at a construction site, or *maybe* even a landscaper that > > need to charge their batteries for their equipment, a fuel cell for > > auxiliary power may make more sense. > > > > - Mark > > > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > >> On May 20, 2021, at 7:03 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Haha, I new you'd sneak in fuel cells. :) I'll give you this. I think it > >> makes more sense to do range extension with a fuel cell than with an ICE. > >> > >> Does anyone have an idea which would be more compact for a given amount of > >> net energy: fuel cell + tank or battery ? > >> > >> Peri > >> > >> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > >> > >> ------ Original Message ------ > >> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]> > >> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > >> <[email protected]> > >> Sent: 19-May-21 10:39:27 PM > >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal > >> > >>> I really don’t care - if it gets people interested in EVs as a cool, high > >>> performance vehicle, that’s great. > >>> > >>> This is a middle America meat and potatoes vehicle. > >>> > >>> Over time it will get lighter, and what you saw was one with added weight > >>> from a larger battery pack and other extras. > >>> > >>> I wouldn’t be surprised that option disappeared over time, and if you > >>> need all that extra juice, you’ll be able to get a fuel cell electric > >>> version. (Sorry, that’s just the more fitting EV option for that need) > >>> > >>> I see this vehicle as game-changing as the Tesla. > >>> > >>> Then there are the other two that they drove up on stage - both look > >>> great, but actually the light commercial vehicle is of greater import and > >>> impact. > >>> > >>> - Mark > >>> > >>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > >>> > >>>>>> On May 19, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I think it will be popular. So much for making efficient vehicles - > >>>>> one estimate I read put the small pack at 115kWh. But most buyers won't > >>>>> care. They want the F-150 look, the power, and the range. It must weigh > >>>>> a ton. No, make that 3 tons. > >>>>> > >>>>> Peri > >>>>> > >>>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ > >>>>> From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: 19-May-21 7:18:43 PM > >>>>> Subject: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal > >>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjisj5T0VqE Bigger frunk than Tesla. > >>>>>> Same price for the low end model. Lots of intelligent features. This > >>>>>> is a real competitor to the Cybertruck. 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