I actually think hydrogen from solar and wind is a good think, ICE trucks 
pickups etc can be converted to run hydrogen in the ICE engine, just stop 
making new ICE cars. Hydrogen helps in a few different ways. With petrol, it 
can run on a 5% mixture, so you can almost run without a throttle which makes 
it more efficient due to no pumping loss. In diesel, running a % of hydrogen 
with diesel makes for a clean exhaust and also better consumption. We going to 
have to live with a few ICE around for a few years. What we don't want is for 
this to slow down the BEV uptake, and for this end we can stop subsidizing fuel 
and charge  road user charges. One charge with upkeep of roads and licence and 
even third party insurance thrown in and an additional charge for ICE that can 
be adjusted.

-----Original Message-----
From: EV On Behalf Of Ed Blackmond via EV
Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2021 9:33 am
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Cc: Ed Blackmond <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] hydrogen isn't green, after all


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> At some point, we'll probably have enough large scale excess that it makes 
> sense to produce hydrogen with that excess. But, I believe, the primary use 
> for that hydrogen will be for backup grid power generation, not 
> transportation. At that point, we'll be able to have a 100% clean grid and a 
> grid capable of charging EVs across the country !


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