Ok, my opinion. I think one should look at the intent of the law requiring a full stop at a stop sign. From what I learned, that is to allow getting a full view of the intersection before proceeding. If you don't come to a full stop, you might not notice a pedestrian starting to cross. Or, if the cross traffic doesn't stop, you might miss an oncoming vehicle.

So, for human drivers, a full stop makes sense.

In the future, good sensors and self-driving software should be able to determine if a full stop is necessary. The software can look in all directions at once and doesn't need nearly as much time as a human to make a decision. If the view of cross traffic is blocked, it will need to be ready to stop, but may not need to completely stop once at the intersection. I can imagine that full stops and, perhaps, even stop signs themselves will eventually become relics.

In the mean time, I think Tesla's should obey the law. Once Musk can prove his vehicles don't have to fully stop, maybe he can lobby to get laws changed.

Peri

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From: "Mark Grasser via EV" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

But if you read how It works, it only does the rolling stop if no other cars
are at the intersection. So the question is this. If no one is in the forest
and a tree falls, does it make a sound?

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

On 1 Feb 2022 at 17:36, paul dove via EV wrote:

  Dangerous trend to me. Why should your car make you follow the law?

Would you really want your car to cause you to BREAK the law?  Because
that's what Tesla's rolling stop is doing.

This "feature" hardly surprising from Elon Musk, who's demonstrated that he
doesn't think that laws apply to him.

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