Please not Discord. While it is a great communication tool (and I moderate
some very large discord communities), it is very much a sink for
discoverability and archiving. Unlike forums (that persist), anything
posted in a discord is hard to discover later at best, and utterly
ephemeral at worst.

E-mail lists like this are more permanent, and with a proper archive become
a searchable reference that can be referred back to, so there's little need
to re-post the same information over and over.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 at 03:00, John Hoopes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I love this list and information, I would suggest we move to Discord, no
> cost, just start a thread and we can have channels for each subject,
>
> Just a thought, will miss this if it goes,
>
> J_Hoopes
>
>
>
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>
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> On Saturday, July 11, 2026 at 10:31:06 AM PDT, Beth Silverman via EV <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave, I had no idea you've been paying for this!!
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you.
>
> I would miss the list if it was gone, but I certainly understand that
> things change and time marches on....
>
> Beth Silverman
> ex-Solectria
>
>
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>
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 07:16:50 +0200
> > From: "List Lackey" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [EVDL] EV List future?
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > Find a couple of questions for you to please answer / discuss below.
> >
> > About a week ago I got an unwelcome surprise - notice that the EV list's
> > hosting service will shut down discussion lists on the 22nd of this
> month.
> >
> > Good news: I've found a new host that seems committed to discussion lists
> > for
> > the longer term.
> >
> > More good news: It would add an integrated archive and an interactive
> web-
> > forum (BBS) to the list. That would make it more like Google Groups or
> the
> > old Yahoo Groups, but without all the advertising and the privacy
> > concerns.
> >
> > To be clear, the BBS would be optional.  You could still interact with
> the
> > discussion list entirely via email, the way you always have.
> >
> > As a bonus, the new host would cost me about half of what I've been
> paying
> > for the last few years.
> >
> > But ...
> >
> > List traffic has been steadily declining since 2012 and the introduction
> > of
> > practical production EVs.  In the last 6 months we've had about 260
> > posts.
> > In 2010, we got almost that many messages per *week*.
> >
> > That's probably because the EV list has always been mainly a place for EV
> > hobbyists.
> >
> > Not many folks build their own EVs now.
> >
> > Also, most of the production EVs have their own dedicated or
> > semi-dedicated
> > (usually commercial / ad-supported) online resources.
> >
> > I suppose that there's EV discussion on social media, too.
> >
> > So, finally, my questions to you:
> >
> > Is the EV discussion list still useful to you?
> >
> > Should I keep it going?
> >
> > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
> >
> > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
> > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt
> >
> >
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